Noise limits at Bedford - will the PSE be a problem?
Discussion
...I'm planning to do the evening track day at Bedford on the 26th, and was wondering whether anyone with a 996 (with PSE fitted) has passed the noise test there. 101 dbs apparently.
Also, I will be buying my own helmet, as I don't fancy using a sweaty, stinky hired one! Any recommendations? It should be open-faced and must look very cool.
Thanks.
Also, I will be buying my own helmet, as I don't fancy using a sweaty, stinky hired one! Any recommendations? It should be open-faced and must look very cool.
Thanks.
Nice helmit Garry.
re noise my guess would be you may be marginal on noise if it is a static test as my old C4S could struggle to make 103 some days and that was with the switch on quiet mode the hotter it is the quierer it ran.Just get it tested and you will know. or you could just lie about your redline by 2000 revs I got on 98db days using this method .The problem with 911's is all the noise is in the back so a static test hammers them I have never been flagged on the drive by test.
my other tip is turn aircon off and have windows up I think porsche got the 911 through euro 4 by putting some of the noise on the inside!
re noise my guess would be you may be marginal on noise if it is a static test as my old C4S could struggle to make 103 some days and that was with the switch on quiet mode the hotter it is the quierer it ran.Just get it tested and you will know. or you could just lie about your redline by 2000 revs I got on 98db days using this method .The problem with 911's is all the noise is in the back so a static test hammers them I have never been flagged on the drive by test.
my other tip is turn aircon off and have windows up I think porsche got the 911 through euro 4 by putting some of the noise on the inside!
lightweight said:
Nice helmit Garry.
re noise my guess would be you may be marginal on noise if it is a static test as my old C4S could struggle to make 103 some days and that was with the switch on quiet mode the hotter it is the quierer it ran.Just get it tested and you will know. or you could just lie about your redline by 2000 revs I got on 98db days using this method .The problem with 911's is all the noise is in the back so a static test hammers them I have never been flagged on the drive by test.
my other tip is turn aircon off and have windows up I think porsche got the 911 through euro 4 by putting some of the noise on the inside!
re noise my guess would be you may be marginal on noise if it is a static test as my old C4S could struggle to make 103 some days and that was with the switch on quiet mode the hotter it is the quierer it ran.Just get it tested and you will know. or you could just lie about your redline by 2000 revs I got on 98db days using this method .The problem with 911's is all the noise is in the back so a static test hammers them I have never been flagged on the drive by test.
my other tip is turn aircon off and have windows up I think porsche got the 911 through euro 4 by putting some of the noise on the inside!
...the test is both static and drive-by. Think I'll just get it checked in advance, unless any PSE owners have actually done Bedford and not had a problem?
Jason
I've just bought a Bell Mag 5 from the states - not yet arrived. After duty, VAT etc will cost about £240. Same helmet costs about £400 in the UK. Carbon Kevlar, white open faced and cooler than a snowmans testicles.
Previously had a SPARCO and that was pretty good as well. Sadly after 6 years it whiffs a bit in the hot weather.
I've just bought a Bell Mag 5 from the states - not yet arrived. After duty, VAT etc will cost about £240. Same helmet costs about £400 in the UK. Carbon Kevlar, white open faced and cooler than a snowmans testicles.
Previously had a SPARCO and that was pretty good as well. Sadly after 6 years it whiffs a bit in the hot weather.
Edited by paulburrell on Wednesday 19th July 17:34
paulburrell said:
Jason
I've just bought a Bell Mag 5 from the states - not yet arrived. After duty, VAT etc will cost about £240. Same helmet costs about £400 in the UK. Carbon Kevlar, white open faced and cooler than a snowmans testicles.
Previously had a SPARCO and that was pretty good as well. Sadly after 6 years it whiffs a bit in the hot weather.
I've just bought a Bell Mag 5 from the states - not yet arrived. After duty, VAT etc will cost about £240. Same helmet costs about £400 in the UK. Carbon Kevlar, white open faced and cooler than a snowmans testicles.
Previously had a SPARCO and that was pretty good as well. Sadly after 6 years it whiffs a bit in the hot weather.
Edited by paulburrell on Wednesday 19th July 17:34
..Thanks! That Bell appears to be exactly what I'm looking for. I'll check UK prices, as I don't have time to ship from the US.
16610LV said:
...I'm planning to do the evening track day at Bedford on the 26th, and was wondering whether anyone with a 996 (with PSE fitted) has passed the noise test there. 101 dbs apparently.
Also, I will be buying my own helmet, as I don't fancy using a sweaty, stinky hired one! Any recommendations? It should be open-faced and must look very cool.
Thanks.
Also, I will be buying my own helmet, as I don't fancy using a sweaty, stinky hired one! Any recommendations? It should be open-faced and must look very cool.
Thanks.
Do you mean the 27th? The 911 & PW Day? I'm booked on that but can't go now - see my thread about what a great week its been ...
Not sure if the booking is transferrable, but if anyone's interested let me know.
Re. the helmet, I looked idly, and thought these looked reasonable value at £150-170:
Should add that I know nothing about crash helmets, so no idea if they are any good or not.
I went for a motorcycle helmet, the full face bike helmets tend to have a larger aperture for vision than the full face car specific helmets.....
this is fine if you are only looking to concentrate on the next apex, but a possible reason why people never see faster cars approaching behind them on trackdays!
this is fine if you are only looking to concentrate on the next apex, but a possible reason why people never see faster cars approaching behind them on trackdays!
cyberface said:
Usual story - if you've got a £5 head, get a £5 helmet.
But I've got a million pound head and no one sells a £1M helmet.
There must be diminishing returns once it meets the standards and actually fits you. This seems to be the toughest problem - where do you go to try on a race helmet?
magic torch said:
paulburrell said:
After duty, VAT etc will cost about £240
Do you know if they will charge VAT, as they're zero rated if you buy them in the UK.
Could make it even more of a bargain.
If it's a motorbike helmet its zero rated. If it's for motorsport(classed by HMCE as fun) then its 17.5%.
I've bargained on having to pay it but you never know, the US supplier might just write motorcycle on the customs note
paulburrell said:
magic torch said:
paulburrell said:
After duty, VAT etc will cost about £240
Do you know if they will charge VAT, as they're zero rated if you buy them in the UK.
Could make it even more of a bargain.
If it's a motorbike helmet its zero rated. If it's for motorsport(classed by HMCE as fun) then its 17.5%.
I've bargained on having to pay it but you never know, the US supplier might just write motorcycle on the customs note
Cheers for that, if I get a mate to post one over I'll make sure it's a 'motorcycle' version.
On the noise front, whilst they test static, they don't stop you going on if you fail (within reason I suspect!). They will put a red sticker on your window however and if you trip the drivebys you get one chance to learn where they are and lift off as you go by. Sorry I mean modify your exhaust
(p.s. watch your revs coming out the 2nd right before the pit straight near the marshalls post
)For inside a coupe car, why not get a sparco clubman, about £60 from Demon Theives and meets standards set out for track days (BS6658-85 A)
www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=SPA358L
www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=SPA358L
Re noise, my GT3 has PSE and it's permanently on. Static tests between 101 - 103db, depending on conditions. Bedford have sometimes given me a green sticker, sometimes a red. But they have always let me on and I've never tripped any of the drive-by mics when at WOT. The right hand side mic on the shorter back straight before the hairpin is the one to be generally careful about, but even driving down the right side at 6500rpm in 3rd gear doesn't trip it in my car.
PSE and Bedford should be no problem.
PSE and Bedford should be no problem.
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