Wheel Spacers, they are a bad idea arnt they?

Wheel Spacers, they are a bad idea arnt they?

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haynes

Original Poster:

370 posts

243 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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Just need a reminder that i shouldnt even consider wheel spacers, on the front anyway. Dont they increase bump steer, well mess up the handling anyway?

Ive got some miglia arches which ive chopped down narrower so they sit just outside the wheel and cover it quite nicely, after all that is the point of that type of arch. But a mate seems to think that i need to space the wheels out a little. The wheels are 6x10 GBs. Could i get away with 1/4"?

Do spacers have an effect on the rear, is a little bit of spacing beneficial? I have got spacered rear drums.

wadgebeast

3,856 posts

212 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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The main reason for using spacers is to fit wider tyres than normal and prevent them rubbing on the bodywork when you've got full lock on.

Can't see why it would increase bump steer necessarily, but you'll have less thread on your hubs sticking through, so you'd have to consider how well your wheels are held on. I fitted spacers to a midget I used to have, purely because I had lower profile tyres on. It certainly didn't seem to have a knock on effect on the handling...

fwdracer

3,564 posts

225 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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1/4 inch spacers on the rear of the Mini were part of the 'Official' John Cooper handling kit. They are to ensure the 165/60/12 tyres clear the rear wheelarch under full bump.

Small 1/4 inch spacers shouldn't have significant issues (indeed some wheel offsets differ by greater amounts). Just ensure good thread engagement at all times.

CoolCurly

210 posts

212 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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Just make sure you get the "solid" type spacers. MiniSpares will be able to point you in the right direction and remember you will need the longer wheel bolts to make sure you have enough thread left after the rim.

Popular wheels and a very popular mod - so not really a bad thing to be honest.

cooperman

4,428 posts

251 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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Thin spacers used to ensure tyre clearance are fine. I have to run 4mm spacers on the rear of my car when running the Colway Knobblies as the reinforcing strips on the sidewalls rub on the dampers. The fronts are no problem though.
Wide spacers are a real 'no-no' as they do screw up the steering geometry on the front (it's well screwed up on the Sport Pack) and they do the wheel bearings no good on either end.

haynes

Original Poster:

370 posts

243 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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SO a fairly narrow spacer should be ok, paying close attention to available thread / change if necessary. It doesnt need much, just a slither to help fill it out a little under the arch. Certainly not thinking of those 1.5" wide extended stud types!

cooperman

4,428 posts

251 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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I reckon you're OK up to 5mm, but more than that might demand longer studs

love machine

7,609 posts

236 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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Spacers on the rear slightly decrease understeer, like a rear anti roll bar. On the front it just makes the steering shitty. I had some 6.5" JA Pearce wheels which are offset by about 3.5" offset. On S brakes. Great on a mirror surfaced track but terrible on the road. When I upped the power stupidly, it made it a nasty car to drive. (I don't mind things like LSD's or harsh steering) but kicking through the steering wheel, bump steer and ridiculous torque steer are not good. I'm sure you're not going this far and I'm a fan of fat minis. I'm going to run a set of maximum inset 5" wheels on mine when I up the power more (and an LSD). I don't like offset but if I did, I'd run some of those KAD 8x10 mags with cut slicks thumbup but they'd just make it horrible to drive on the road.

Keep 'em in as much as you can.

haynes

Original Poster:

370 posts

243 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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Talking of KAD alloys, i was looking at these yesterday, 10x6, are they nearly £300 each or is that for a set? Thats each isnt it?!

love machine

7,609 posts

236 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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haynes said:
Talking of KAD alloys, i was looking at these yesterday, 10x6, are they nearly £300 each or is that for a set? Thats each isnt it?!


£308 Each. I imagine my old JAP's were lighter as well.

You could get a set cast/machined up for less than that, I reckon. I know a guy with a foundry/machine shop......

guru_1071

2,768 posts

235 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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i bought a set of banded std wheels on ebay last week.

7 quid the set.

we are going to throw all the crappy 13" rubbish fitted to my bro's ratter mini and go back to s discs. these banded wheels will be perfect for that mid 70's retro look. - i used to run a set on the same car 15 years ago and they look great.

it confuses the hell out of people, 6" wide wheels with hubcaps?

wtf?

makes a change from 6" minilights, sure people say they fall to bits, but the welding on these is perfect machine weld, and they must have been made years ago.

fat richie

1,271 posts

219 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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guru_1071 said:
i bought a set of banded std wheels on ebay last week.

Er.. you do know that banded steel wheels are illegal!! judge

guru_1071

2,768 posts

235 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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yeah,

so's everything else nowadays.......

love machine

7,609 posts

236 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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Nice, had a look at them. I saw a set a while ago which were reverse rims with about 1.5" band on the inside. They looked beautiful. I'm really into my inset at the mo.

I'd run banded wheels after checking them out in detail. The insurance company probably wont pay out anyway.