What's the deal with Martin Brundle?

What's the deal with Martin Brundle?

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pincher

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8,572 posts

218 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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Just watching the Suzuka highlights and it seems that MB can do a grid-walk and talk to just about anyone he likes - he even grabbed Bernie by the arm and started chatting away just now. Was interesting to see a couple of people talking to Jenson Button by the wall and they just melted away as he walked up. Same sort of thing happened with Ralf Schumacher.

I'm sure he must be buddies with most of them (and doesn't he manage JB or something?) but I wondered if there was some sort of 'special deal' that ITV have brokered with the F1 authorities to gain such access to everyone? I mean, I'm sure Bernie must have better things to do that stop for a chat just before a race (as do the drivers).

megy

2,429 posts

215 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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He is DC's manager, but likes to keep objective, and i think its fair to say he does.

He is also an ex race driver, so knows a lot of the people that will be on the grid, having raced against some(decreasing in numbers though). Also ITV supply the tv pictures and commentary to A LOT of other countries, and so as far as i believe, they are the closest there is to a FORMULA 1/FIA broadcaster.

simes205

4,540 posts

229 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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Also I think MB normally arranges the first interview, and there is also someone else on hand to point out drivers available to MB.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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megy said:
Also ITV supply the tv pictures and commentary to A LOT of other countries, and so as far as i believe, they are the closest there is to a FORMULA 1/FIA broadcaster.
Is that so?

I thought that only FOM could distribute footage of F1.
Perhaps smaller users pay FOM the big wedge for the rights and then a smaller one to ITV for the processed material.

Can you imagine paying a fee to listen to James Allen?yuck

megy

2,429 posts

215 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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flemke said:
megy said:
Also ITV supply the tv pictures and commentary to A LOT of other countries, and so as far as i believe, they are the closest there is to a FORMULA 1/FIA broadcaster.
Is that so?

I thought that only FOM could distribute footage of F1.
Perhaps smaller users pay FOM the big wedge for the rights and then a smaller one to ITV for the processed material.

Can you imagine paying a fee to listen to James Allen?yuck


My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that the tv pictures during the race and post race interview are controlled and distributed by the FOM, but the ITV commentary is used all around the world, but the grid walks and interviews during the race are covered by ITV, if you watch the highlights program, they often have TV coverage of the interview of a crashed/retired driver during the race, that on the live program was just a sound over, also the highlights program will have a lot more 'on camera' interviews that are filmed, controlled and distributed by ITV.

RTL have a similar arrangement with the FOM with(i believe) Christian Danner commentating, again, ex driver.

I could however be wrong, although have to agree with Flemke, imagine paying for the privelage of listening to James Allen

chrisgr31

13,487 posts

256 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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Yes my understanding is that TV companies buy the rights to show F1 in their target market. Then then have to decide whether to use their own commentary team or buy someone elses. Many english speaking language stations therefore take ITVs commentary (I think some don't have advert breaks!)

My impression is that Martin Brundle had a pretty good idea of who he is going to speak to before the event, particularly with drivers and Bernie.

Gemm

1,833 posts

216 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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Yes, he does have pre-agreement with drivers, so he has the priority (and nerves!) to interrupt anyone else in his way.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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Yes, Gemm's correct - they pre-agree the interviews...but can't always guarantee that the driver will play ball. FOM are the host broadcaster for a number of races - eg Turkey, but as we saw today, don't supply the service to the Japanese. News to me that ITV supply their services to other countries, but I guess that could well be true for English speaking countries such as Aus & NZ

reardrive

2,121 posts

269 months

Sunday 8th October 2006
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I think, quite simply, he's very good at his job. He's intelligent, articulate and good-humoured.
He's 'been there, done that' and even keeps up to date by occassionaly driving a current F1 car.
I think he commands a lot of respect along the pit-lane, though I get the impression that he and MS don't get along too well.

Can't remember who it was, but a high-profile national newspaper journalist rated him the best TV commentator in any sport.

Dr JonboyG

2,561 posts

240 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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megy said:
flemke said:
megy said:
Also ITV supply the tv pictures and commentary to A LOT of other countries, and so as far as i believe, they are the closest there is to a FORMULA 1/FIA broadcaster.
Is that so?

I thought that only FOM could distribute footage of F1.
Perhaps smaller users pay FOM the big wedge for the rights and then a smaller one to ITV for the processed material.

Can you imagine paying a fee to listen to James Allen?yuck


My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that the tv pictures during the race and post race interview are controlled and distributed by the FOM, but the ITV commentary is used all around the world, but the grid walks and interviews during the race are covered by ITV, if you watch the highlights program, they often have TV coverage of the interview of a crashed/retired driver during the race, that on the live program was just a sound over, also the highlights program will have a lot more 'on camera' interviews that are filmed, controlled and distributed by ITV.


ITV don't supply commentary for the whole world. In the US it's done by Speed TV, for example.

The world feed is the same everywhere, but broadcasters can have their own cameras present for the grid walk - Martin Brundle does it for ITV, Peter Windsor does it for Speed TV. The cameramen are actually from the FOM pool, but their individual feed will go to the respective broadcaster. In order to do this, you have to pay Bernie for the privilege. As for getting interviews, yes, the people doing the interviewing tend to be well known amongst the F1 fraternity, but as each one of them represent a national broadcast, the drivers etc tend to be nice and give them time. The main exception is the Kraut, who's always had an exclusive deal with a german TV station.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Schumacher has an exclusive deal with RTL, but I don't think that this prevents him from speaking English with another pundit. I'm given to believe that he didn't react too kindly to Brundle's critcism of him back in 1997 and since then has more or less refused to speak to MB.

For me, the best part of the ITV show is Brundle's pits walk, although I wish it were a little more insightful sometimes - he rarely elicits anything interesting from Button IMHO. I thought that his dicussion with Ralf yesterday was interesting though.

stumartin

1,706 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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rubystone said:
.. he rarely elicits anything interesting from Button IMHO.


Does anyone?

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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i'd have thought that any TV company paying a lot of money to get the right to show it would also get the rights to wander the pits, the grid etc.
suzi perri does the same with the motorbikes.
Brundle makes me laugh when he moans about the number of celebrities on the grid at monaco, as he barges his way through them.

jbudgie

8,935 posts

213 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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the grid walk with Suzi Perry is very enjoyable

Edited by jbudgie on Tuesday 10th October 15:26

pib

1,199 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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eccles said:
i'd have thought that any TV company paying a lot of money to get the right to show it would also get the rights to wander the pits, the grid etc.
suzi perri does the same with the motorbikes.
Brundle makes me laugh when he moans about the number of celebrities on the grid at monaco, as he barges his way through them.


laugh I don't hear MB since I am in America but I got a kick out of a Monaco clip of MB briefly talking to Puff Daddy/P Diddy on the grid lineup. MB confronts him and says, "P-Diddy I see you fingering a cigar. Are you a bit nervous?" P-Diddy responds, "No, No, I'm never nervous. . . Hello London!"

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

256 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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The fact he was an F1 driver, with balls may help as well, rather than some motor-journo with a mic.

cj_eds

1,567 posts

222 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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eccles said:

Brundle makes me laugh when he moans about the number of celebrities on the grid at monaco, as he barges his way through them.


hehe It is quite funny when you see someone filled with their own self importance gets knocked out the way by Brundle and a man with a hefty camera

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

256 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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he doesn't take any stick at all. Good on him.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Andy Mac said:
he doesn't take any stick at all. Good on him.


I think that he shies away from confrontation with Schumacher - I'd love to see him doorstep him