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Some of you may have seen my post on general gassing, but if not...
I'm hoping to sell my Cerb soon, so I can free up some cash, but I don't really want to be just down to the Lexus and I'll be picking up a second car for a more modest price. My original thought was a caterfield or something like that, as I'd like something that is rapid enough for me to not miss the Cerb too much. Caterfields are a little selfish though, as my gf won't go in one, not something that will stop me buying one if I see a perfect car, but i'd ideally like something we both could enjoy.
Next thoughts were either an RX7 or MX5. I've owned a Eunos 1.6 a few years back and enjoyed it, but it will be way too slow for me these days. Am I likely to be able to get a turbo'ed MX5 for a maximum of £4k, and if so is that wise
On the other hand i've always loved RX7's, what sort of car could I expect for my money? Either straight unmodified or engine modified. Not really into wild bodykits and the like...
Any thoughts on either? Anybody know of any good cars that they could point me in the direction of?
Some of you may have seen my post on general gassing, but if not...
I'm hoping to sell my Cerb soon, so I can free up some cash, but I don't really want to be just down to the Lexus and I'll be picking up a second car for a more modest price. My original thought was a caterfield or something like that, as I'd like something that is rapid enough for me to not miss the Cerb too much. Caterfields are a little selfish though, as my gf won't go in one, not something that will stop me buying one if I see a perfect car, but i'd ideally like something we both could enjoy.
Next thoughts were either an RX7 or MX5. I've owned a Eunos 1.6 a few years back and enjoyed it, but it will be way too slow for me these days. Am I likely to be able to get a turbo'ed MX5 for a maximum of £4k, and if so is that wise
On the other hand i've always loved RX7's, what sort of car could I expect for my money? Either straight unmodified or engine modified. Not really into wild bodykits and the like...
Any thoughts on either? Anybody know of any good cars that they could point me in the direction of?
The RX7 is defiantly a thirsty car, But I wouldn't say it would be much worse than your Cerb. I've owned mine for a year now and it's been a great car. Most people give them bad press because of needing rebuilds and fuel issues. But there not that expensive to rebuild and the fuel consumption isn't really that bad (well that's what I tell myself at the petrol station 
) I don't think a Skyline/Supra would that much better as it gets higher up the rev range. They defiantly don't really like sitting in traffic and this is where it will use quite a bit more fuel than a petrol equivalent of the same age and power.
They are really good fun and rewarding to drive, but if you take it over the limit they bite back fast as the limits are high. This isn't really helped by the twin turbo setup, as when the second turbo come into play at 4500rpm you get noticeable surge in power. If this happens mid corner the back will light up really easily and does catch a lot of people out over the winter months. My old TVR 400se was much kinder when it reached the limits of grip as it was at a lot lower speeds. If you haven't had a drive of one make shore you have good test drive of a few, as they do have issue with boost on the sequential turbo setup as it's hugely complicated, well know as the rats nest. If you get a boost leak anywhere in this little bundle of pipes it a right mare to diagnose yourself.
I really like mine and would say its the best car I've driven yet. There's only one thing I don't like about the car and that's the noise the engine makes. I don't really know why it just doesn't do it for me, The only wankles I like the sound of are the 3/4 rotor motors.
Mines up for sale at minute. Only think is your a long way from me, as I would have taken you out for a spin. www.pistonheads.com/sales/124362.htm
) I don't think a Skyline/Supra would that much better as it gets higher up the rev range. They defiantly don't really like sitting in traffic and this is where it will use quite a bit more fuel than a petrol equivalent of the same age and power. They are really good fun and rewarding to drive, but if you take it over the limit they bite back fast as the limits are high. This isn't really helped by the twin turbo setup, as when the second turbo come into play at 4500rpm you get noticeable surge in power. If this happens mid corner the back will light up really easily and does catch a lot of people out over the winter months. My old TVR 400se was much kinder when it reached the limits of grip as it was at a lot lower speeds. If you haven't had a drive of one make shore you have good test drive of a few, as they do have issue with boost on the sequential turbo setup as it's hugely complicated, well know as the rats nest. If you get a boost leak anywhere in this little bundle of pipes it a right mare to diagnose yourself.
I really like mine and would say its the best car I've driven yet. There's only one thing I don't like about the car and that's the noise the engine makes. I don't really know why it just doesn't do it for me, The only wankles I like the sound of are the 3/4 rotor motors.
Mines up for sale at minute. Only think is your a long way from me, as I would have taken you out for a spin. www.pistonheads.com/sales/124362.htm
tvr tommy said:
Mines up for sale at minute. Only think is your a long way from me, as I would have taken you out for a spin. www.pistonheads.com/sales/124362.htm
Ill stick in a plug for mine as well then
www.pistonheads.com/sales/127907.htm
Pulsatingstar said:
tvr tommy said:
Mines up for sale at minute. Only think is your a long way from me, as I would have taken you out for a spin. www.pistonheads.com/sales/124362.htm
Ill stick in a plug for mine as well then
www.pistonheads.com/sales/127907.htm
may i just say Pulsatingstar, that that is a beautiful RX
why am i so tempted 
Gazboy said:
Los Angeles said:
The RX7 is a gas guzzler with a complicated engine, but in its day was considered an equal competitor to, or better than, the Porsche 944.
Er, hasn't it only got three moving parts?
I was going to say, A rotary engine is dead simple you can rebuild them in about an hour!
vixpy1 said:
Gazboy said:
Los Angeles said:
The RX7 is a gas guzzler with a complicated engine, but in its day was considered an equal competitor to, or better than, the Porsche 944.
Er, hasn't it only got three moving parts?
I was going to say, A rotary engine is dead simple you can rebuild them in about an hour!
Put together a longish reply but the site wasn't taking updates at the time.
Apart from a fiendishly complex control system for the twin turbos they're the definition of simplicity.
The turbo control can be significantly simplified by going single turbo. This gives better mpg, better reliability (15 year old solenoids tend to give up) and more power.
I love mine - the handling is superb. With it's single turbo setup power delivery is smooth and controllable. It's easy to balance round a corner on the throttle.
As posted above though - they do bite people hard and it's usually at some speed. This is mostly because people stop concentrating and take the piss in the wet
Pulsatingstar said:
tvr tommy said:
Mines up for sale at minute. Only think is your a long way from me, as I would have taken you out for a spin. www.pistonheads.com/sales/124362.htm
Ill stick in a plug for mine as well then
www.pistonheads.com/sales/127907.htm
Both nice cars, but both out of my price range. Am I on a hiding to nothing buying a 4 grand Rex?
trooperiziz said:
Pulsatingstar said:
tvr tommy said:
Mines up for sale at minute. Only think is your a long way from me, as I would have taken you out for a spin. www.pistonheads.com/sales/124362.htm
Ill stick in a plug for mine as well then
www.pistonheads.com/sales/127907.htm
Both nice cars, but both out of my price range. Am I on a hiding to nothing buying a 4 grand Rex?
Yeah id say so. If you cant afford one at 8k you cant afford to run a 4k one. you might get lucky, but you do see so many people who buy them and realise afterwards they cant run them and sell them when it pops or after a couple of months.
Pulsatingstar said:
trooperiziz said:
Pulsatingstar said:
tvr tommy said:
Mines up for sale at minute. Only think is your a long way from me, as I would have taken you out for a spin. www.pistonheads.com/sales/124362.htm
Ill stick in a plug for mine as well then
www.pistonheads.com/sales/127907.htm
Both nice cars, but both out of my price range. Am I on a hiding to nothing buying a 4 grand Rex?
Yeah id say so. If you cant afford one at 8k you cant afford to run a 4k one. you might get lucky, but you do see so many people who buy them and realise afterwards they cant run them and sell them when it pops or after a couple of months.
Well, i'm running a Cerbera at the moment, there is no way it costs more than that to run, I can guarantee you that
. iaint said:
I love mine - the handling is superb. With it's single turbo setup power delivery is smooth and controllable. It's easy to balance round a corner on the throttle.
I keep watching FD vids on youtube.. it's a bit like banging my head against the wall, but I just can't stop for some reason....
oh, and next month's PracticalPerformanceCar - LS1 RX7 !!!! I'll be buying that then!
The RX is cheaper to run all in than my Cerbera was. I think the point though is that if £4,000 is the limit then avoid an RX just because you could find yourself in for a £3,000 rebuild fairly swiftly.
If, however you can spend £4,000 and if a rebuild is needed you can free up cash then take the plunge. They are a great drive but at £4,000 and no rebuild funds they'd be a risk.
Cheers
DC
If, however you can spend £4,000 and if a rebuild is needed you can free up cash then take the plunge. They are a great drive but at £4,000 and no rebuild funds they'd be a risk.
Cheers
DC
dai capp said:
The RX is cheaper to run all in than my Cerbera was. I think the point though is that if £4,000 is the limit then avoid an RX just because you could find yourself in for a £3,000 rebuild fairly swiftly.
If, however you can spend £4,000 and if a rebuild is needed you can free up cash then take the plunge. They are a great drive but at £4,000 and no rebuild funds they'd be a risk.
Cheers
DC
If, however you can spend £4,000 and if a rebuild is needed you can free up cash then take the plunge. They are a great drive but at £4,000 and no rebuild funds they'd be a risk.
Cheers
DC
From research over the past few days, it seems that like all other sports cars at the moment, prices are in freefall. What may have been true 6 months ago is well out of date. There are cars advertised at under £5k with a recent rebuild now, there are even a couple of single turbo conversions at under £6k.
I don't think getting a good car with recent rebuild for around £4k will be too much of a problem, i'm in no rush...
trooperiziz said:
I don't think getting a good car with recent rebuild for around £4k will be too much of a problem, i'm in no rush...
Possibly not but, for 4k, what would you realistically expect? Most of the mint rx's still fetch decent money. A decent single for 5k? Expect problems unless the owner really needs to get rid for personal reasons. I suspect bargains are often because of known problems...
Even a recent rebuild isn't a guarantee of long-life. Been a few cases recently where the root cause of teh failure wasn't addressed leading to a quick and messy engine-death.
Many of us will probably end up keeping ours for life because we can't bear the thought of starting agin with another car having dropped a small fortune in tuning and repairs
I'd start off standard if I were to do it all again and spend the cash all over again even though my head tells em I should've bought modded in the 1st case.
Coming from a cerb though, you'll probably want a decent singe-equipped car to satisfy your butt-dyno!
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
I don't think getting a good car with recent rebuild for around £4k will be too much of a problem, i'm in no rush...
Possibly not but, for 4k, what would you realistically expect? Most of the mint rx's still fetch decent money. A decent single for 5k? Expect problems unless the owner really needs to get rid for personal reasons. I suspect bargains are often because of known problems...
I totally agree, but I suspect that with the current prices as they are, the bargain cars that may have problems are likely to be the £3k cars
A decent single for £5k? How about the single currently up for sale by re:worx on behalf of one of their customers for £5,995?
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