Tuscan S to New GT3

[tuscan_s]

I currently have a Tuscan S but would like to look into getting a Mk2 GT3.

Apparently the waiting lists are quite long but is it worth going for one or waiting for the 997?

I once drove one of the first 996 Carrera 4 with Clubsport Aero package (looks like an early GT3) and it was fab but it lacked some rawness which I love about the Tuscan.

Would you guys go for one? I am considering a Clubsport edition with sports pipes, ceramic brakes and rollcage etc but only if I can change those crap halfords wheels...

[Thom]

First you should IMO post this message on the TVR boards as well.

[clubsport]

Tusc S.....I posted on this dilemma last week and as yet have not ordered one...

I would not consider the ceramics yet,,,by all account they don't work as well as hoped,,,there are a few 996 GT2 (standard equipment) that are happier running regular TT discs & pads.

>> Edited by clubsport on Tuesday 29th April 12:04

[dazren]

I currently consider the new GT3 to be the bargain of the new car arena. This statement depending on Porsche restricting supply, leading to you having one of the slower depreciating Porsches.

I would suggest trying to get rides etc in standard and clubsport models before deciding. The garage have advised my younger brother against the clubsport as an everyday car, lighter flywheel, less soundproofing material etc.

I would ignore the 997 issue, history shows it's a fair while after Porsche launch new cars before the more interesting variants (read faster or lightweight) emerge onto the market.

I'm not sure I'd bother with the ceramics brakes, as I know of a Turbo owner who has reverted back to regular discs and I know Paul AKA clubsport met a chap at an Aston meet a few weeks ago who had steel discs on his GT2 because the ceramics took too long to warm up for road use. Although here's hoping Porsche have perfected them before you spec your new vehicle.

DAZ

PS - When you get it if you would be so kind as to pop along to a driving meet, preferable with runways and nice wide corners with lots of runoff allowing some serious powerslide drifting action (Next Bruntingthorpe meet springs to mind).

[peter_964rs]

I also know of a GT2 user who didn't want ceramics because of the problems reported. However, this was told to me last year, technology marches on, and I have faith in Porsche to rectify any issues. If they were uncomfortable with fitting them to their cars until teething problems were sorted, I doubt they'd have them on the GT3 as an option.

As for Tuscan versus GT3, inevitably I must recommend Porsche. That's not to knock the Tuscan, which is a wild and exciting vehicle, but the GT3 is so much more desirable in parameters that matter to me, such as depreciation, build quality, reliability (note to TVR owners, I'm not trolling for any TVR vs Porsche reliability type angry responses, just stating that I'd believe a new Porsche to be likely to be more reliable than a new TVR), practicality, etc. Also probably just as quick on the roads and much quicker on track.

So, yes, get a GT3. Best colour for it would be yellow

[beaver]

I had a Tuscan Red Rose, now in a '99 GT3 Clubsport with a new one coming in September. It's almost as raw as a Tuscan except the transmission tunnel doesn't burn your leg, the aircon works, it isn't put together with mastic sealant and it doesn't try to throw you into the ditch when you mean to go straight on.

The new GT3 Clubsport does not have a single mass flywheel, the only difference between the "Comfort" model now is rollcage and flame-resistant seats with a driver's side harness. Ceramic brakes are better on the GT3 than the GT2, but still cost a small fortune.

If you can't get a new one I strongly recommend you buy my one.

Edited to say my new one is yellow...

>> Edited by beaver on Tuesday 29th April 15:30

[peter_964rs]

Air Con? Tsk - unnecessary luxury

[fanch1]

Porsche has listened to the critics of the first PCCB.
And apparently, the new ones (GT3 and later models) are much better.
I remember trying a GT2, stopping power was just ridiculous, but I found the PCCB very noisy for everyday use, which is one of their main critic.
And yes, only difference between normal and clubsport version is the roll cage and the seats fabric and a fire extinguisher.(which rules out any back passenger, I know there's no belt, but we were four in the GT2 and the seats (or shall I say seating area) are much bigger than a standard 996 because... well, because there is no seat! It's just the mould.)
But I dont' think the clubsport version has less sound proofing than the normal version, nor different suspension setup.
Fanch.

[craig]

...and no side airbags in the Clubsport either

[tuscan_s]

Thanks for the replies guys!

I wish I could own both to be honest!

The Tuscan is doing me fine for now but I really do want to try out the GT3 and give it a good thrash!

I just don't like those wheels. Don't look special enough! Maybe I'll skip the ceramic brakes and get some RUF wheels instead

All this is a year off yet (waiting lists) so I have plenty of time to decide.

I think I would get it in black or custom colour, estoril blue would be ideal!

[Thom]

tuscan_s said:I just don't like those wheels. Don't look special enough!

Wait till you see them in the flesh, pictures just do not make them a favour.
I saw the first GT3 Mk2 for the french market a couple of weeks ago and these wheels actually look good.

>> Edited by Thom on Tuesday 29th April 19:15

[beaver]

No, new Clubsport does come with side airbags, unlike the original version which didn't. It also comes with a battery cut-off loop under the bonnet but the battery switch in front of the gearlever as per the original is supplied but not fitted.

Original is definitely rawer, also the new one is allegedly softer according to new owners.

You can still buy my one in July.

[tuscan_s]

Shame really about your car beaver because I do like the original GT3 but not looking until next year.

No doubt there will be some around then. Must be in silver though!