adapter plates for gearboxs

adapter plates for gearboxs

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deanwilson

Original Poster:

42 posts

207 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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hi there does any1 know how to make there own gearbox adapter plates i know that practical performance mag did an artical on it in issue 17 so if any1 has got issue 17 that they could copy the artical on the adapter plates for me would be a big help but if not any info on adapter plates would be a big help many thanks dean

stevieturbo

17,271 posts

248 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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Its not that complicataed in theory...putting it into practise can be tricker though.

Just make a template of one bellhousing bolt pattern, then the other, ensuring the input shaft spigot is EXACTLY in the centre of both.

Translating that onto steel or aluminium, using as many fixings as is possible. Chances are input shaft may no longer be long enough then to reach the spigot bush in the crank, so that will need addressed too.

deanwilson

Original Poster:

42 posts

207 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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oh right ok how thick should the steel be for the plate and how would i go about making the shaft longer to make it fit what about all the start motor would that have to be moved

350matt

3,740 posts

280 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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use 10-12mm thick for (EN9) steel and double that for (HE30) ally, you machine the thickness of the plate off the bellhousing so the overall length of the gearbox doesn't change.

Also don't forget to get the correct clutch plate for your new input shaft

Matt

deanwilson

Original Poster:

42 posts

207 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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so do i keep the oringnal bellhousing off of the engine and jus change the actual unit that holds the gears yeah any chance you could do a rough sketch of an exploded diagram of where the adapter plate would go that would be grateful

stevieturbo

17,271 posts

248 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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Every case will be different. Its up to YOU to decide which bits are most suitable to use.

We havent a clue what you are even doing to suggest which bits are best.

rev-erend

21,421 posts

285 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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Give us a clue - what is the engine and what in the intended box..

May be there is already something available.

350matt

3,740 posts

280 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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You can either machine down the engine side of the bellhousing or the gearbox side, whichever is easier, if you have a removable bellhousing it may be possible to find an alternative bellhousing to convert to what you need.
For example the Borg Warner T5 box used in TVR's has belhousings available for the ford pinto, the Rover V8, the TVR own engines and the cosworth YB to name but a few

Whats the project?

Matt

deanwilson

Original Poster:

42 posts

207 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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well basically i was thinking of using the alfa v6 and mating it to any type rw drive gearbox sumting like the t5 but it useful to know these things for future projects see i don't like auto's and if i can change the gearbox then i will i would like to use a bmw v12 for something but the auto box puts me off i am building a locost at the moment and as it stands i am useing a nissan 200sx s14a turbo engine in it but i am now think of the alfa v6 because of the noise it makes

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

252 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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I have designed these adaptors before and the difficulty of the task shouldn't be underestimated.

The most critical element of this is having accurate measurements of the bolt spacing and most importantly of all the dowel hole positions. After that it is a case of packaging a clutch, flywheel and release mechanism, and designing them so that everything works properly. Component selection is of course critical if the project is to be a success.

I don't think it is really going to be a good use of your money to do this work, stick with a proven system which though it may have imperfections, actually works. A Rover V8 with 77 mm gearbox isn't that bad, and spares are cheap and plentiful. This is not something you can say when you make your own custom parts.