Are you obliged to report a minor non injury accident ?

Are you obliged to report a minor non injury accident ?

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gshughes

Original Poster:

1,282 posts

256 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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Question in the title really,

Am I obliged under to report a minor non injury accident to the BIB ?

Within 24 hrs rings a vague bell

Other car was able to drive away, mine is rather more incapacitated alas !

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

245 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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DAMAGE ONLY ACCIDENT

If you:

Sustained no damage to the other parties vehicle or property only damage to ones own vehicle.

Stopped at the scene of the accident.

The law has been complied with.

But if damage to others vehicle, property then:

If requested gave name and address, name and address of the owner and particulars of the vehicle.

If details not given then obligation to report as soon as possible and in any case within 24 hours to the police.

S 170 (as amended) Road Traffic Act 1988.

dvd

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Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Saturday 1st September 08:58

RichBurley

2,432 posts

254 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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Nope, no obligation to report, in such circumstances.

mmm-five

11,270 posts

285 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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Dwight VanDriver said:
DAMAGE ONLY ACCIDENT

If you:

Sustained no damage to the other parties vehicle or property.

Stopped at the scene of the accident.

If requested gave name and address, name and address of the owner and particulars of the vehicle.

The law has been complied with.

If details not given then obligation to report as soon as possible and in any case within 24 hours to the police.

S 170 (as amended) Road Traffic Act 1988.

dvd
How can you have a 'Damage Only Accident' when the first criteria is no damage? Or does that mean you've knackered your vehicle but everything else is undamaged?

In the OP's case - his car is incapacitated and the other (possibly damaged) car drove home - so would this 'damage only accident' cover this scenario?

vonhosen

40,272 posts

218 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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mmm-five said:
Dwight VanDriver said:
DAMAGE ONLY ACCIDENT

If you:

Sustained no damage to the other parties vehicle or property.

Stopped at the scene of the accident.

If requested gave name and address, name and address of the owner and particulars of the vehicle.

The law has been complied with.

If details not given then obligation to report as soon as possible and in any case within 24 hours to the police.

S 170 (as amended) Road Traffic Act 1988.

dvd
How can you have a 'Damage Only Accident' when the first criteria is no damage? Or does that mean you've knackered your vehicle but everything else is undamaged?

In the OP's case - his car is incapacitated and the other (possibly damaged) car drove home - so would this 'damage only accident' cover this scenario?
It means that there is no damage to a 3rd party vehicle or property.

If you hit your garden fence post in your car causing damage to either, there is no need to report.
If you hit someone else's garden fence post in your car damaging the post, if you haven't exchanged details, you must report to Police.



Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 1st September 09:23

mmm-five

11,270 posts

285 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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vonhosen said:
It means that there is no damage to a 3rd party vehicle or property.

If you hit your garden fence post in your car causing damage to either, there is no need to report.
If you hit someone else's garden fence post in your car damaging the post, if you haven't exchanged details, you must report to Police.
Ta, understand now!

hothaul

7 posts

200 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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a car went into the back of me while i was stationary,actually geting out to see what he was flashing at and making his mouth go,ther was minor damage to my vehicle but his was more damaged,he got out of his car and said sorry for hitting my vehicle,i am a mechanic by trade so the damage could easily be repaird on mine,i said to him stop pissing abut this time of the morning early am.right bottom line no major damage to mine him admiting liability no one hurt both went on our way.2 weeks later plods nocking on my door cautioned me for leaving scene of accident no one hurt no witnesses,went to court i got fined £43 and five points on my licence,dont forget he hit me,still pursuing damages from me.this is a total mockery of the law (BE WARNED TELL THE PLODS STRAIGHT AWAY THEY WILL NOT BE BOTHERED BUT IT MIGHT SAVE YOU 5 POINTS

catso

14,795 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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My wife was involved in a non injury accident, not her fault but the OP, who caused the accident by dangerous driving was untraceable to us (although a little bit of detective work may well have discovered who it was). I called the Police, they could not have been less interested...... ;(

Edited by catso on Monday 3rd September 23:24

RichBurley

2,432 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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catso said:
My wife was involved in a non injury accident, not her fault but the OP, who caused the accident by dangerous driving was untraceable to us (although a little bit of detective work may well have discovered who it was). I called the Police, they could not have been less interested...... ;(

Edited by catso on Monday 3rd September 23:24
What kind of detective work though? No point sending the police on a wild goose chase to search for a "Blue Golf"; obviously I don't know what the other car was like though! The police think it is a needle in a haystack, there was no injury, and your wife is insured, so the police give it the lowest priority.

Out of interest, what was it about the other car that makes it identifiable?

BIG DUNC

1,918 posts

224 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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[quote=RichBurley
Out of interest, what was it about the other car that makes it identifiable?
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When someone drove into my wife and drove off without stopping, we had CCTV of the other car including the number plate, but the police could still not have been less interested.

RichBurley

2,432 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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Crikey, you couldn't really ask for more, then! Mind you, pass the details of the other vehicle to the wife's insurer, and they should be able to recover from the other driver's insurer, IF they are insured. Problem solved, with luck.

catso

14,795 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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RichBurley said:
Out of interest, what was it about the other car that makes it identifiable?
Farmer's pick-up truck, she got the colour, type and partial reg no. Should have been fairly easy to track given that the Farmer would have been close to home, of course said farmer would probably deny all knowledge. Police priority was to give 'producer' for my wife & car.

Yes our car was insured but, with the excess and then the loading on other, unrelated, policies (wtf?) , it has cost (and will yet cost) a lot of money to put right.

What gets me is that we always hear about 'road safety' (aka speeding) but no interest is shown in a case of dangerous driving, which could have resulted (and nearly did) in serious injury, because it involved doing a little bit of Policing...... frown

chilled

588 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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[tinfoilhaton]

Giving your wife the producer is almost like the police are discouraging people from bothering them with anything

[/tinfoilhaton]

catso

14,795 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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chilled][tinfoilhaton said:
Giving your wife the producer is almost like the police are discouraging people from bothering them with anything

[/tinfoilhaton]
scratchchin indeed it would almost appear that way..........