Jobs??

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maclf01

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233 posts

251 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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How would one go about getting a job at lambo, ferarri, or Pagani? I'm talking like engineer right out of college. Is it very hard to get a job at one of these places being very qualyfied?

P.s. please reply!! I must know i would love to work at one of these places!! And thankyou for your time.

Bodo

12,375 posts

267 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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It's just like any other places too: the'll be looking for people when they need them, and they'll pick the best (the best qualification & experience) out of all the job applicants.

It could be useful to have engineering experiences (ie. industrial placement) with their parent company (Audi for Lamborghini and Fiat for Ferrari), and speaking & thinking Italian could also be useful

adi

514 posts

276 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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I have MSc Cambridge Engineering qualifications, 10 yrs experience and pretty much top grades at all stuff I've taken, but when I wrote to all the F1 teams and a couple of manufacturers a few years ago, only 3 had the decency to even reply with rejection! It wasn't that my application was bad, I think networking is the predominant way in to a good top car manufacturer/race team job.

Best thing to do is get your details out there, regardless of where it gets you now... you know the old saying, if you don't try you don't get and all that...

360N-GT

58 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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Sorry guys, but in my limited experience the only way in is to start at club level, do a good job, get lucky and work hard.

The queue for top jobs laps the globe.

You could try kidnapping eldest children I suppose......

maclf01

Original Poster:

233 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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Guess i should build my own race car like pagani did before he had his company, haha, just kidding of course. Ohwell i'll do my best once i get there im only 17 now, but i'm thinking of jobs i could get after college that have to do with cars. I don't think my racing career is gonna go to far, so i guess i have to plan for this kind of stuff. Anyways thanks for the input guys!!

murph7355

37,747 posts

257 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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Applying to the parent companies seems like the best idea to me.

Also, have a word with them as to what sort of qualifications and experience they look for. These days it may well be less obviously relevant degrees that they look for. I would imagine most F1 teams look for aeronautics and other degrees quite often.

Showing club interest in your preferred field is always a good idea not matter what career you go for.

jedi

197 posts

265 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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If you havent done college yet, then try and persuade your college to approach them for work experience etc.... another excellent way of getting in full time. Perhaps try one of the other formula teams as it would then give you the edge over other applicants later.

Good Luck.

Danster

221 posts

261 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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Get the on the right training/education courses as a start- there are some specialist ones about now being advertised in Autosport etc.

At Ferrari, there seem to be several generations of families working there- a bit like how Rolls-Royce and Jaguar are over here. I know that Ferrari do have their own training academy, but I don't know how it works, I guess it is linked to the local schools and technical colleges so it helps if you're Italian!

Although it may seem an unlikely way in, join an Owner's Club- you'll be amazed who you meet.

The most important thing I've learnt is keep trying, I must have 20 or 30 letters from teams where I have applied for work over the years...

(Sorry if this is a bit Ferrari Biased!)



maclf01

Original Poster:

233 posts

251 months

Friday 18th July 2003
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Actually the main reason why i mentioned all of those italian company's is because i am Italian!!! Go figure haha. Well thanks for the input guys! SO colleges set you up with jobs? I was actually thinking take 2 years of college in the U.S. and if it's possible transfer to a school in italy and see if that school could help me out. I don't know though, that would be a lot of money even without having to pay for school over seas. Hmmm, well thanks a ton guys!!

maclf01

Original Poster:

233 posts

251 months

Sunday 20th July 2003
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mmmmm k so i have two more questions. By getting a job with the parents companys you guys mean audiand who is ferrari's parent? I never thought they had one. Last but not least, what fields of study should i sign up for.

360N-GT

58 posts

259 months

Sunday 20th July 2003
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Don't want to crush your spirit, but the market is flooded with massively qualified engineers, technicians, mechanics etc. Ex military, aerospace, aeronautical, hydraulic, pneumatic, electronic types that normal mortals can't compete with.

Mechanics are from years of experience in various slicks and wings categories and even sub assemblers are specialists in their fields.

You need to become an expert in a very small, no tiny, target specialist area to stand a chance. And I don't mean a generic, say "Electronics" engineer. You'd need to specialise in specific electronic devices. There is no room for "jack of all trades". Many staff never even touch the finished product or even know what they're manufacturing....take a tour through McLaren or Williams to find out....

You've got better chances of getting into a sportscar category, but even then you need to know people who know people.

I've gone to Australia to carry out my Ferrari road/race specialist trading....as it's at least possible to make a living by doing a good job. Not so in Europe I'm afraid....

But that's just my opinion. Good luck anyway!

maclf01

Original Poster:

233 posts

251 months

Monday 21st July 2003
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aoh, no worries, for some reason i am rather confidant in my skills. Besides by the time i get out of college the world economy should be booming and companies will need young people.

EDIT: btw what fields will i need to study, i understand aeronautics, mechanical engineering, what else?

>> Edited by maclf01 on Monday 21st July 03:54

bjwoods

5,015 posts

285 months

Saturday 18th October 2003
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And what reason would that be then?

Go on impress us....

There are a number of highly experienced people giving you good realistic advice here, it's in your interest not to ignore them or reality.

Good luck with your dreams (sorry ambition) but you are starting to come across as an arrogant dreamer or a troll.

imho

B

>> Edited by bjwoods on Saturday 18th October 11:09

andycanam

1,225 posts

265 months

Sunday 19th October 2003
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Tell you what... when I go to the Maclearen factory this week I'll ask them.


My advice would be to get on with your career in a field you think you would enjoy and be particularly good at... and then go make your mark. If your good enough they will spot you and will headhunt you.

anjum

1,605 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st October 2003
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A good MSc in Fluodynamnics and /or aeornautical engineering is the basis for a career in F1 - and that's why I'm stuck in the city and not in F1!

I have a friend Nick Galbraith, who works at MacLaren designing rear wing elements - he has the above, plus 10 years of active race involements.

danhay

7,437 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st October 2003
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The only person I've ever met who worked an F1 team (for Scuderia Ferrari! ) was a software engineer. His speciality was real time embedded systems stuff as opposed to any of this PC based malarky.

Guy Humpage

11,310 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2003
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A friend of the colleague was headhunted from the RAF, it seems the pneumatics on a Harrier are not disimilar to that of an F1 car.