lambda sensor wiring

lambda sensor wiring

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martinlaw

Original Poster:

283 posts

223 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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Vehicle electrics are not my forte.

I am fitting a fuel/air ratio guage to my GTR and the lambda sensor I have has three wires, two white and one black.

I assume the black is the signal wire which attaches to the signal input on the guage. The two white wires must be for the heater in the sensor??

This is the problem - does it matter which way around the white wires are connected assuming one white wire to earth and one to 12v supply.

Can i used the same earth and 12v supply to power the guage?

Finally, I assume the 12v supply should come from the ignition switch?

Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Martin.

Pb3

1,064 posts

247 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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You have a three wire narrow band sensor, the black is the signal and yes the two whites provide heater power, ie one +ve and one to chassis ground.

Really a wide-band sensor would have been better, specially as you will probably be running rich and well off the narrow band range of operation in most cases!.

eliot

11,465 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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Indeed.
I have a wideband in one bank and a narrowband in the other bank. I find the narrow band gives a reasonable indication from about 14.7 through to 11:1 afr, but is next to useless for anything leaner. In order to save fuel, I have tuned my cruise mixture down to a safe 15:1 ratio and my 20 LED narrow band doesn't even light up.

Still its better than nothing - and its good fun being able to see in real time what your engine is doing - Enjoy!

kylemrushall

1,922 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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Martin, I would say you definately want a wide band, these engines are old technology and from what i have seen so far struggle to stay in narrow band constaints!!

Pb3

1,064 posts

247 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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Don't forget also that a 14.7:1 air fuel ratio is not where the power is either, at some points ie wide open throttle you want 12.5 to 13.5. That is not best for emissions though, for which a narrow band sensor is really imployed for.

martinlaw

Original Poster:

283 posts

223 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Thanks for the advise guys - it looks like a wide band sensor then.

Cheers,
Martin.

crafty

2,291 posts

238 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Martin.... have a look at the Innovate products with datalogging.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/manual/...

ringram

14,700 posts

249 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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I distro innovate products if it helps anyone smile

eliot

11,465 posts

255 months

Saturday 5th April 2008
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martinlaw said:
Thanks for the advise guys - it looks like a wide band sensor then.

Cheers,
Martin.
Indeed - I hope you didn't spend too much on the narrowband.

ringram

14,700 posts

249 months

Saturday 5th April 2008
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The innovate LC1 has 2 outputs both programmable, one by default is configured as narrowband and the other wideband.
They arnt too much. They are pretty much the best value widebands around.

You can probably wide just about any generic narrow band in there cheaper mind you.
It depends if you fancy knowing more about what your fueling is doing. Innovate also do gauge kits with digital or analog 52mm gauges that read wideband output. Backlit for night etc too.