IT Support Wanted

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GuinnessMK

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1,608 posts

223 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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How do you go about procuring an IT support contract?

We have a single hp server with tape backup and UPS / 3 laptops / 2 windows mobiles with push email / 2 IP phones / 1 desktop, 1 printer. Not much of a system, but absolutely critical to the business.

How do I go about writing a support tender? Regular maintenance and problem solving as and when are really all that is required. Plus possible upgrades as we take on more staff / locations.

I know the system can be remotely managed, but would I be best off going with local companies? Big company or small?

Mike

Taita

7,611 posts

204 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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A fair few people here run companies that do this. I work for one.

As I'm in the game, I would choose someone who is relatively close to you. Its not as essential now, as all work can be done remotely, but ime, if you have to go to site to rebuild a machine etc then its pap if other end of country.

We are moving to having an image of each PC type on a NAS in each site. PXE boot, flatten, start again smile

HRG.

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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I'm afraid we can't help you in the north east, but have a look at what we offer for local companies in a similar situation to yourselves.

Fixed monthly fees.
No contract.
preventative maintenance visits.
Remote, telephone and on site support all included.

www.nsupport.co.uk

I'm sure there will be someone offering something similar in your area.

Taita

7,611 posts

204 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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HRG. said:
I'm afraid we can't help you in the north east, but have a look at what we offer for local companies in a similar situation to yourselves.

Fixed monthly fees.
No contract.
preventative maintenance visits.
Remote, telephone and on site support all included.

www.nsupport.co.uk

I'm sure there will be someone offering something similar in your area.
yes We do exactly the same, primarily North West but stretch to London / Bristol.. Focus is on customer retention.

Herbie58

1,705 posts

191 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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What ^^^ they said. Another one in IT Support.

If your business is extremely sensitive to downtime (think about what you absoutely could not do business without, could you cope without your email? Do you have data compliance requirements etc) then you should also ask about some form of disaster recovery/business continuity solution too.

I think someone else aready mentioned a local image backup to a NAS box - add on offsite replication for DR and you could be up and running in hours, if not less, should anything happen to your infrastructure.

In general consider what you need provided/looking after - helpdesk services for user support, remote support for issue resolution, hardware and infrastructure maintenance, security, communications (internet, exchange, telephony, blackberry, website).

Most companies should be able to offer you a mixture of the above on a fixed monthly cost, or often called "a managed service".

Where abouts in the North East are you? I might be able to make a recommendation.

F355gtb2009

1,725 posts

181 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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pm me i do it for the MOD and government also do it for myself local businesses in the northwest,im regularry up NE way aswell

rich1231

17,331 posts

261 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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F355gtb2009 said:
pm me i do it for the MOD and government also do it for myself local businesses in the northwest,im regularry up NE way aswell
So you are not very good then? Or do offsites include the free distribution of sensitive data on unencrypted laptops.

Cappsy

1,725 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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rich1231 said:
F355gtb2009 said:
pm me i do it for the MOD and government also do it for myself local businesses in the northwest,im regularry up NE way aswell
So you are not very good then? Or do offsites include the free distribution of sensitive data on unencrypted laptops.
if u can find an unencrypted Dii laptop ill give you my car! and fyi Atlas consortium didnt lose anything wink

pmanson

13,384 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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I was hoping the MK in your username referred to Milton Keynes!

If did I would have been able to help you out as this is what we do. Look for a company that provides proactive monitoring of servers.

I would look for a proactive service over a break/fix one but you will pay slightly more.

jamieboy

5,911 posts

230 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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What do you guys include in your proactive or preventive services?

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

206 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Hi, one of my roles is IT manager for a small, 10 user business, where IT is totally critical.

Firstly, its not just the hardware you want to be aware of its the software and OS use can be more important, as in my experience thast what you need support on most! Make sure you choose a company that can support and is familiar with both hardware and software you use.

I've dealt with loads of IT support companies, the best in reguards to actuall support are usually medium 40-100 staff sized companies, as they have a large breadth of staff, which usually equals a good range of experience.

I've worked with some companies local to me and to be honest a lot of them tended to be 1 man bands, or 1-5 men bands! This is fine, but I simply found they did't have the large range of experience in dealing with the wide range of problems out there and they made sloppy mistakes. Obviously this isnt always the case.

But on the other hand, if you get a problem local companues can come out to your premises quickly and more cost effectively than a remote company which is reassureing. Some of the companies that do "remote support" are very good. BUT no matter what they tell you there is only so much that can be done remotely and if you need someone on the premises often they can only make the next day. Not only this they often subcontract the work out to other companies which are not up to the same standard as the company the end user deals with.

Its a bit of a mindfield, but there are some good companies out there

Herbie58

1,705 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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pmanson said:
I would look for a proactive service over a break/fix one but you will pay slightly more.
This is true, but he is right. You want a contract with a company who will carry out the preventative maintenance and proactive monitoring on your systems to prevent issues developing in the first place or to cut them off before they become big expensive problems.

You will save money in the long term, believe me. Anything else is really just putting sticky plasters on wounds.

pmanson

13,384 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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jamieboy said:
What do you guys include in your proactive or preventive services?
An interesting question as each company will be different...

In our case ( Aztech IT Solutions)...

Through our 24/7 server monitoring we are checking the following:

  • Backups have been completed
  • Anti-Virus and Patch Management is upto date (both server and desktop side)
  • Disk space and memory utalisation
  • Monitoring trends and issues as quite often you can spot a failure before it happens.
The idea being that we can see that your Exchange Mailstore (for example) is growing quickly and that if we don't act you will hit the limit and run into issues. We then go to the Client with a list of potential options for them.

In other words we act as your internal IT Manager but without the overhead of employing someone.

We're in the process of implementing a very expensive monitoring system at the moment that will allow us to extend the functionality of our proactive service even further. For example if a company has a laptop stolen we will be able to see the next time it is switched on and added to a network. We can supply that IP address to the police.

As part of our pre-sales process we can install a small agent on your network and after a couple of days we can have a full picture of the health of your network and where there are areas for improvement. Then FOC we will work for the following week to improve the "health" score.

We also provide our clients with daily/weekly reporting and hold either monthly/quarterly review meetings depending on their requirements.


To the OP - With a company of your size I wouldn't worry about producing a tender. Work out what services you require (eg. If something goes wrong I really need someone onsite to fix it within two hours), have a chat with a couple of local companies that outsource. Find out who they work with and what their thoughts are.

Look for a Microsoft Gold Partner (not essential but can be helpful). Above all if you get on with the Salesman/Engineers that counts for a lot!

Herbie58

1,705 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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pmanson said:
jamieboy said:
What do you guys include in your proactive or preventive services?
We're in the process of implementing a very expensive monitoring system at the moment that will allow us to extend the functionality of our proactive service even further. For example if a company has a laptop stolen we will be able to see the next time it is switched on and added to a network. We can supply that IP address to the police.
HoundDog to Kaseya transition per chance? I used to work vendor side in remote monitoring/automation and management.

jamieboy

5,911 posts

230 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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pmanson said:
-stuff-
Thanks for that, it's more or less what I expected. thumbup

Generally, support is an area I've studiously avoided getting into, but who knows what happens in the future.

pmanson

13,384 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Herbie58 said:
pmanson said:
jamieboy said:
What do you guys include in your proactive or preventive services?
We're in the process of implementing a very expensive monitoring system at the moment that will allow us to extend the functionality of our proactive service even further. For example if a company has a laptop stolen we will be able to see the next time it is switched on and added to a network. We can supply that IP address to the police.
HoundDog to Kaseya transition per chance? I used to work vendor side in remote monitoring/automation and management.
Yep that's the one. Not had much exposure to it yet but what i've seen it's very good.

Herbie58

1,705 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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pmanson said:
Herbie58 said:
pmanson said:
jamieboy said:
What do you guys include in your proactive or preventive services?
We're in the process of implementing a very expensive monitoring system at the moment that will allow us to extend the functionality of our proactive service even further. For example if a company has a laptop stolen we will be able to see the next time it is switched on and added to a network. We can supply that IP address to the police.
HoundDog to Kaseya transition per chance? I used to work vendor side in remote monitoring/automation and management.
Yep that's the one. Not had much exposure to it yet but what i've seen it's very good.
The right choice for what it's worth. The cost savings and increased service levels you'll get from the automation capabilities will be immense. The transition period is a fecker but the benefits once it's all up and running are well worth it.

Have a look at PSA systems (Connectwise, Autotask)if you're thinking of taking the business down that track - they integrate fairly closely with Kaseya and you get a seamless process from monitoring to billing.

Taita

7,611 posts

204 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Herbie58 said:
pmanson said:
jamieboy said:
What do you guys include in your proactive or preventive services?
We're in the process of implementing a very expensive monitoring system at the moment that will allow us to extend the functionality of our proactive service even further. For example if a company has a laptop stolen we will be able to see the next time it is switched on and added to a network. We can supply that IP address to the police.
HoundDog to Kaseya transition per chance? I used to work vendor side in remote monitoring/automation and management.
Another one of those here.

fade2grey

704 posts

249 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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I'm not going to push their full suite of services on here but my brother runs NE solutions (www.nesolutions.co.uk) who do all that sort of stuff.. lot's of recommendations etc, worth an informal chat about what you need.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Taita said:
HRG. said:
I'm afraid we can't help you in the north east, but have a look at what we offer for local companies in a similar situation to yourselves.

Fixed monthly fees.
No contract.
preventative maintenance visits.
Remote, telephone and on site support all included.

www.nsupport.co.uk

I'm sure there will be someone offering something similar in your area.
yes We do exactly the same, primarily North West but stretch to London / Bristol.. Focus is on customer retention.
What's your website?