Finding the limit of ones natural ability...
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I think iv found the limit of my natural ability.. or lack of it.
Twice this week iv had issues cornering.
1st time on a roundabout, coldish morning not out long and im on a roundabout, reasonably quick, the back end slides, only a tiny bit im sure but the toe of my boot scuffed on the tarmac.. certainly got my heart going that.
2nd time, left hander off a roundabout, dry, warm, and again trying to get round reasonably quickly the whole bike feels like it slides out, only a tiny movement but it freaked me out and i stood the thing up pretty sharpish.
Its not like im doing xxx mph and hanging off the bike with my knee down or anything either.
Is it just poor technique? or am i rubbish? or is it the bike?
Twice this week iv had issues cornering.
1st time on a roundabout, coldish morning not out long and im on a roundabout, reasonably quick, the back end slides, only a tiny bit im sure but the toe of my boot scuffed on the tarmac.. certainly got my heart going that.
2nd time, left hander off a roundabout, dry, warm, and again trying to get round reasonably quickly the whole bike feels like it slides out, only a tiny movement but it freaked me out and i stood the thing up pretty sharpish.
Its not like im doing xxx mph and hanging off the bike with my knee down or anything either.
Is it just poor technique? or am i rubbish? or is it the bike?
There's a roundabout near me, nasty bumpy rippled surface caused by dumper trucks. Surface has been rubbed shiny by said vehicles, too. Probably remnants of diesel / oil spills. On a cold morning with a moist sheen on the surface and stone cold tyres, both my Elise and the motorbike feel very unsure over the surface and I take it really easy.
I'd basically say just ride to the conditions.
I'd basically say just ride to the conditions.
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Adam_W said:
I think iv found the limit of my natural ability.. or lack of it.
Twice this week iv had issues cornering.
1st time on a roundabout, coldish morning not out long and im on a roundabout, reasonably quick, the back end slides, only a tiny bit im sure but the toe of my boot scuffed on the tarmac.. certainly got my heart going that.
2nd time, left hander off a roundabout, dry, warm, and again trying to get round reasonably quickly the whole bike feels like it slides out, only a tiny movement but it freaked me out and i stood the thing up pretty sharpish.
Its not like im doing xxx mph and hanging off the bike with my knee down or anything either.
Is it just poor technique? or am i rubbish? or is it the bike?
scuffing your boot 9 times out if ten will be having your foot too far forwards on the peg. Twice this week iv had issues cornering.
1st time on a roundabout, coldish morning not out long and im on a roundabout, reasonably quick, the back end slides, only a tiny bit im sure but the toe of my boot scuffed on the tarmac.. certainly got my heart going that.
2nd time, left hander off a roundabout, dry, warm, and again trying to get round reasonably quickly the whole bike feels like it slides out, only a tiny movement but it freaked me out and i stood the thing up pretty sharpish.
Its not like im doing xxx mph and hanging off the bike with my knee down or anything either.
Is it just poor technique? or am i rubbish? or is it the bike?
Adam_W said:
I think iv found the limit of my natural ability.. or lack of it.
Twice this week iv had issues cornering.
1st time on a roundabout, coldish morning not out long and im on a roundabout, reasonably quick, the back end slides, only a tiny bit im sure but the toe of my boot scuffed on the tarmac.. certainly got my heart going that.
2nd time, left hander off a roundabout, dry, warm, and again trying to get round reasonably quickly the whole bike feels like it slides out, only a tiny movement but it freaked me out and i stood the thing up pretty sharpish.
Its not like im doing xxx mph and hanging off the bike with my knee down or anything either.
Is it just poor technique? or am i rubbish? or is it the bike?
video it next time so we can see what you meanTwice this week iv had issues cornering.
1st time on a roundabout, coldish morning not out long and im on a roundabout, reasonably quick, the back end slides, only a tiny bit im sure but the toe of my boot scuffed on the tarmac.. certainly got my heart going that.
2nd time, left hander off a roundabout, dry, warm, and again trying to get round reasonably quickly the whole bike feels like it slides out, only a tiny movement but it freaked me out and i stood the thing up pretty sharpish.
Its not like im doing xxx mph and hanging off the bike with my knee down or anything either.
Is it just poor technique? or am i rubbish? or is it the bike?
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Edited by wtdoom on Saturday 15th May 01:21
Adam_W said:
1st time on a roundabout, coldish morning not out long and im on a roundabout, reasonably quick, the back end slides, only a tiny bit im sure but the toe of my boot scuffed on the tarmac.. certainly got my heart going that.
What were you doing with the throttle when the back end started to slide? Generally, if you're sliding the rear tyre then you're probably accelerating too hard.
If you follow the rule of never accelerating hard whilst increasing lean angle and instead maintaining a neutral/slightly positive throttle until you pick the bike up out of the corner then you shouldn't slide the rear.
As others have said, if you're leaning the bike too far over (which you probably are if you can scrape your feet/pegs, assuming you're riding on your toes) then you might want to think about body position too to decrease the lean angle of the bike.
The other thing to consider is the condition of your tyres. In most situations (assuming good throttle control), you'll lose the front before the back because it's got a smaller contact patch. However, if your rear tyre doesn't have a good amount of tread that'll mess your grip, and you up.
Edited by _DeeJay_ on Saturday 15th May 07:40
Edited by _DeeJay_ on Saturday 15th May 07:41
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