15-20M HDMI cable, would it look terrible?

[Silverbullet767]

Hi guys, I am looking to share my Sky+HD signal from my livingroom to my bedroom (1st floor flat)

Would a 15M-20M (15 should be enough) lose too much signal over that large a distance or would it be fine. I am looking to purchase the following items.

15M cable
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_...

signal splitter
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_...

I would be running a infrared extender to relay the remote control signal back to the skybox.

I am a little worried about the quality of the splitter as it does not mention 1.3 compliant.

Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

[Plotloss]

If its a Thomson box you could use the component outputs and a set of Cat5e baluns.

You could also do it with HDMI but you'd need two Cat5e

Doing it this way would mean you can put IR down the same cable.

[Silverbullet767]

It's a samsung box.

[hman]

Silverbullet767 said:

Hi guys, I am looking to share my Sky+HD signal from my livingroom to my bedroom (1st floor flat)

Would a 15M-20M (15 should be enough) lose too much signal over that large a distance or would it be fine. I am looking to purchase the following items.

15M cable
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_...

signal splitter
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_...

I would be running a infrared extender to relay the remote control signal back to the skybox.

I am a little worried about the quality of the splitter as it does not mention 1.3 compliant.

Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

It'll be fine, I have the same sort of cable lengths, no signal losses that I can make out.

I used a co-ax with a remote extender on the end of it then took the cable back from the bedroom to the 9v co-ax out on the box.

Works fine!

[JustinP1]

hman said:

Silverbullet767 said:

Hi guys, I am looking to share my Sky+HD signal from my livingroom to my bedroom (1st floor flat)

Would a 15M-20M (15 should be enough) lose too much signal over that large a distance or would it be fine. I am looking to purchase the following items.

15M cable
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_...

signal splitter
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_...

I would be running a infrared extender to relay the remote control signal back to the skybox.

I am a little worried about the quality of the splitter as it does not mention 1.3 compliant.

Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

It'll be fine, I have the same sort of cable lengths, no signal losses that I can make out.

I used a co-ax with a remote extender on the end of it then took the cable back from the bedroom to the 9v co-ax out on the box.

Works fine!

Yep.

As long as that cable does 1080i then you'll be fine. 90% sure it will, but if you can get one specifically rates for it, then you'll have no probs.

[VEX]

It 'SHOULD' be fine.

No one can say for certain as it will depend on interference, route taken, bends encountered etc.

Buy one and test it before you install it on its route.

Running a Sky HD box SHOULD not cause you any problems.

V.

[hman]

VEX said:

It 'SHOULD' be fine.

route taken, bends encountered etc.

.

Forgive my ignorance but since when did bending a cable affect its performance???

[Plotloss]

hman said:

VEX said:

It 'SHOULD' be fine.

route taken, bends encountered etc.

.

Forgive my ignorance but since when did bending a cable affect its performance???

All cable is affected by bends.

Changes the attenuation profile.

[hman]

Plotloss said:

hman said:

VEX said:

It 'SHOULD' be fine.

route taken, bends encountered etc.

.

Forgive my ignorance but since when did bending a cable affect its performance???

All cable is affected by bends.

Changes the attenuation profile.

HA HA HA HA HA do me a favour.

[Plotloss]

hman said:

Plotloss said:

hman said:

VEX said:

It 'SHOULD' be fine.

route taken, bends encountered etc.

.

Forgive my ignorance but since when did bending a cable affect its performance???

All cable is affected by bends.

Changes the attenuation profile.

HA HA HA HA HA do me a favour.

So why do cables have installed bend radii?

You really need to learn a bit more about physics.

[hman]

Plotloss said:

hman said:

Plotloss said:

hman said:

VEX said:

It 'SHOULD' be fine.

route taken, bends encountered etc.

.

Forgive my ignorance but since when did bending a cable affect its performance???

All cable is affected by bends.

Changes the attenuation profile.

HA HA HA HA HA do me a favour.

So why do cables have installed bend radii?

You really need to learn a bit more about physics.

Perhaps I do but once again, back in the real world (attenuation wise from bends on a 20 m hdmi cable) it makes 9/10ths of fk all difference.

Sorry but I've heard so much bks talked about this sort of thing to know that in reality the average joe cannot tell the difference.


Edited to add: bend radius with HDMI will be much more relevant to not damaging the cable by kinking the cable.

Edited by hman on Tuesday 18th May 00:13

[Plotloss]

Again, on short runs yes.

Sending a 1080p signal 20m it could be the difference between getting a signal and not.

[Silverbullet767]

Found this wee item, do you think it will make a difference over say, just an ordinary splitter that I posted in my OP?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet®-SPLITTER-Amplif...

[JustinP1]

hman said:

Plotloss said:

hman said:

Plotloss said:

hman said:

VEX said:

It 'SHOULD' be fine.

route taken, bends encountered etc.

.

Forgive my ignorance but since when did bending a cable affect its performance???

All cable is affected by bends.

Changes the attenuation profile.

HA HA HA HA HA do me a favour.

So why do cables have installed bend radii?

You really need to learn a bit more about physics.

Perhaps I do but once again, back in the real world (attenuation wise from bends on a 20 m hdmi cable) it makes 9/10ths of fk all difference.

Sorry but I've heard so much bks talked about this sort of thing to know that in reality the average joe cannot tell the difference.


Edited to add: bend radius with HDMI will be much more relevant to not damaging the cable by kinking the cable.

Edited by hman on Tuesday 18th May 00:13

Average Joe will tell the difference if the poor installation of a cable means that in a few months time he plugs in his new blu-ray player and finds out he can only have 720p as 1080p has dropouts...

Or, if indeed the poor design of the cable setup means that the cable makes a sharp turn into the TV so it puts pressure on it so that when he adjusts the tv back and forward over time it is knackering the cable termination, socket, as well as the cable itself.

[Carl_Spackler]

Silverbullet767 said:

Found this wee item, do you think it will make a difference over say, just an ordinary splitter that I posted in my OP?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet®-SPLITTER-Amplif...

I have one of these splitting my Sky HD between the lounge and kitchen (10M HDMI cable to kitchen)

Good points -

It works...most of the time

Bad points -

The light is on all the time showing you have it powered, it tends to get hot, and if I stare at it too long of an evening, I get visions of me and my family burning to death in a electrical related fire and have to unplug it before I go to bed.

It, for some reason or other sometimes makes the picture go green, this is easily fixed by changing the input off the input you are on and then immediately back on again (HDMI 1 to HDMI 2 back to HDMI 1 again) but is a bit of a pain.

And lastly, before I started unplugging it at night, after about 2 weeks of it being constantly powered it stopped providing a signal, I switched it off, let it cool and then it worked ok, but a bit of a pain when your in the middle of watching something.

I'd spend a bit more money on one if I was you.

[Silverbullet767]

Carl_Spackler said:

Silverbullet767 said:

Found this wee item, do you think it will make a difference over say, just an ordinary splitter that I posted in my OP?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet®-SPLITTER-Amplif...

I have one of these splitting my Sky HD between the lounge and kitchen (10M HDMI cable to kitchen)

Good points -

It works...most of the time

Bad points -

The light is on all the time showing you have it powered, it tends to get hot, and if I stare at it too long of an evening, I get visions of me and my family burning to death in a electrical related fire and have to unplug it before I go to bed.

It, for some reason or other sometimes makes the picture go green, this is easily fixed by changing the input off the input you are on and then immediately back on again (HDMI 1 to HDMI 2 back to HDMI 1 again) but is a bit of a pain.

And lastly, before I started unplugging it at night, after about 2 weeks of it being constantly powered it stopped providing a signal, I switched it off, let it cool and then it worked ok, but a bit of a pain when your in the middle of watching something.

I'd spend a bit more money on one if I was you.

Just the type of reply I was looking for.

I have found another at the same price, the difference being, that it does not need to be plugged in. (I am running VERY short on power points as it is)

No negative reviews either.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-1080P-Input-...

[Plotloss]

Have a look at the CYP kit or the Octava kit.

That's good.

A lot of the no name chinese stuff is toss.

[Carl_Spackler]

Plotloss said:

Have a look at the CYP kit or the Octava kit.

That's good.

A lot of the no name chinese stuff is toss.

Silverbullet767, do as the man says, he knows his onions.

[The Excession]

hman said:

Plotloss said:

hman said:

VEX said:

It 'SHOULD' be fine.

route taken, bends encountered etc.

.

Forgive my ignorance but since when did bending a cable affect its performance???

All cable is affected by bends.

Changes the attenuation profile.

HA HA HA HA HA do me a favour.

No, it is true.. talk to the boys that lay CAT6 computer cables, they can plug a device onto each end of the cable that can tell you if someone has trodden on it and it will tell youhow far down the cable the stress was created.

It's quite serious stuff in high end applications. Any stress (bend etc) on the cable will affect its abillity to transmit the signal, and it can be measured.

Shocking but true.

[Plotloss]

The good old time domain reflexometer...