Should the BBC be privatised?

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Lefty 200 Drams

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16,157 posts

202 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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And the TV licence fee abolished?

Do you think you get valkue for money? Do you watch/listen to/read the bbc?

Does the BBC turn a profit these days? If so, and if it really provides what people want then surely it could survive on it's own like every other media outlet has to?

How many people does it employ? Must be tens of thousands and I bet it's not an efficient organisation. Why would it need to be when it has so much public funding?

I rarely watch anything on the bbc and rarely listen to the radio. I get my news from websites (and I buy an old-fashioned printed paper most days). I don't feel particularly inclined to continue having to pay a TV licence for a pretty-biased service that I rarely intentionally use

My own personal interpretation of the BBC is that it's pretty st. They seem very keen on pushing a multi-cultural, liberal agenda - political correctness being more important than, well, anything (high quality journalism included).

Sell it off, give every household a little tax-cut and make the bbc stand on it's own.

IMHO wink


rsv gone!

11,288 posts

241 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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It might need a kick up the arse but I HATE adverts, so no!

sinizter

3,348 posts

186 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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I hate adverts, but I hate being made to pay for stuff I did not choose to watch more.

Abolish the TV License fee - don't really care whether the BBC is privatised or not. Unfair to force me to pay for the damn company when I very rarely ever watch anything they produce. I would be quite happy to not watch any of their stuff if given a reasonable choice.

Make them produce a set top box to receive their broadcasts or something.

elster

17,517 posts

210 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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If there was a protest to privatise the BBC and they did end up privatising it.

Then the TV licence would remain, there is no question of this.


OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

177 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Choice above all IMHO. It is totally unacceptable to tax consumers to fund the BBC under the lie of a 'TV Licence'. Make it pay as you go and if the public want it they will pay, if they don't, it will die.

Lefty 200 Drams

Original Poster:

16,157 posts

202 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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elster said:
Then the TV licence would remain, there is no question of this.
I'm sure you're right but it shouldn't.

munroman

1,831 posts

184 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Yes please, their fawning over Global Warming and Diversity is appalling, and they Management is so entwined with Nu Labia that a fresh start would be better.

I am also really concerned about bias, what has happened to all the homosexual aliens that used to be in Doctor Who, there is clearly a 'Straight' bias going on in the current series, with weird examples of families and heterosexual love stories, and even a straight wedding, with parents present.

This has really shown me how they have lost the plot, where is the 'man-love' that we all know is the real situation in the world. I know it's a fantasy programme, but this is too much! biggrin

elster

17,517 posts

210 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Lefty 200 Drams said:
elster said:
Then the TV licence would remain, there is no question of this.
I'm sure you're right but it shouldn't.
Shouldn't pay RFL, but you do.

colonel c

7,890 posts

239 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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For all it's flaws I would not want to lose it. I'm not sure if it needs to be as big as it is though.

Like many others I'm not keen on the BBC paying silly money to some of it's 'top talent'. If they can command such fees let them go and command then from the commercial broadcasters.

Eric Mc

122,037 posts

265 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Yes - I absolutely love ITV a nd Channel 4and the way they handle evertything - especially their sports coverage. The ITV years of F1 coverage were the best ever. The constant ad breaks during the race added so much to each race weekend. I really miss this aspect of F1 coverage and find the constant unbroken coverage as seen on BBC terribly frustrating. There is nothing better than coming back after an ad break to find that you've missed the only overtaking manoeuver of the race or the only goal of the game.

And while you're at it it, abolish all the radio coverage and website material they carry as that is just so much junk. I mean, who wants to be intellectually stimulated or eductated or challenged by the media. Give me "You've Been Framed", "Britain's Got Talent" or "Big Brother" any day.

Yes - commercial is best. Shut down the BBC straight away and refund me the exhorbitant 3p a day they charge. Outrageous!


Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 28th June 09:57

elster

17,517 posts

210 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Yes - I absolutely love ITV and Channel 4and the way they handle everything - especially their sports coverage. The ITV years of F1 coverage were the best ever. The constant ad breaks during the race added so much to each race weekend. I really miss this aspect of F1 coverage and find the constant unbroken coverage as seen on BBC terribly frustrating. There is nothing better than coming back after an ad break to find that you've missed the only overtaking manoeuvre of the race or the only goal of the game.

And while you're at it it, abolish all the radio coverage and website material they carry as that is just so much junk. I mean, who wants to be intellectually stimulated or educated or challenged by the media. Give me "You've Been Framed", "Britain's Got Talent" or "Big Brother" any day.

Yes - commercial is best. Shut down the BBC straight away.
I could see your anger at the OP through this post.

Eric Mc

122,037 posts

265 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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elster said:
Eric Mc said:
Yes - I absolutely love ITV and Channel 4and the way they handle everything - especially their sports coverage. The ITV years of F1 coverage were the best ever. The constant ad breaks during the race added so much to each race weekend. I really miss this aspect of F1 coverage and find the constant unbroken coverage as seen on BBC terribly frustrating. There is nothing better than coming back after an ad break to find that you've missed the only overtaking manoeuvre of the race or the only goal of the game.

And while you're at it it, abolish all the radio coverage and website material they carry as that is just so much junk. I mean, who wants to be intellectually stimulated or educated or challenged by the media. Give me "You've Been Framed", "Britain's Got Talent" or "Big Brother" any day.

Yes - commercial is best. Shut down the BBC straight away.
I could see your anger at the OP through this post.
That was a reasoned response. You should see me when I'm angry.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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A system funded by a tax you must pay if even you don't use the service is fundamentally wrong.

Get rid of the license now, make the BBC a subscription service.

elster

17,517 posts

210 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Eric Mc said:
elster said:
Eric Mc said:
Yes - I absolutely love ITV and Channel 4and the way they handle everything - especially their sports coverage. The ITV years of F1 coverage were the best ever. The constant ad breaks during the race added so much to each race weekend. I really miss this aspect of F1 coverage and find the constant unbroken coverage as seen on BBC terribly frustrating. There is nothing better than coming back after an ad break to find that you've missed the only overtaking manoeuvre of the race or the only goal of the game.

And while you're at it it, abolish all the radio coverage and website material they carry as that is just so much junk. I mean, who wants to be intellectually stimulated or educated or challenged by the media. Give me "You've Been Framed", "Britain's Got Talent" or "Big Brother" any day.

Yes - commercial is best. Shut down the BBC straight away.
I could see your anger at the OP through this post.
That was a reasoned response. You should see me when I'm angry.
It was just the spelling mistakes that made me think that. wink

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Yes - I absolutely love ITV a nd Channel 4and the way they handle evertything - especially their sports coverage. The ITV years of F1 coverage were the best ever. The constant ad breaks during the race added so much to each race weekend. I really miss this aspect of F1 coverage and find the constant unbroken coverage as seen on BBC terribly frustrating. There is nothing better than coming back after an ad break to find that you've missed the only overtaking manoeuver of the race or the only goal of the game.

And while you're at it it, abolish all the radio coverage and website material they carry as that is just so much junk. I mean, who wants to be intellectually stimulated or eductated or challenged by the media. Give me "You've Been Framed", "Britain's Got Talent" or "Big Brother" any day.

Yes - commercial is best. Shut down the BBC straight away and refund me the exhorbitant 3p a day they charge. Outrageous!


Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 28th June 09:57
Any other of your hobbies and interests you'd like me to subsidize?

Maybe be we could all pay for membership of a socialist, centralized state??

elster

17,517 posts

210 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Fittster said:
A system funded by a tax you must pay if even you don't use the service is fundamentally wrong.

Get rid of the license now, make the BBC a subscription service.
The RFL as well?

The fact is it probably would be a good idea to get rid of the BBC just to generate a bit of cash to cut the deficit.

Losing the BBC is not worth that, possibly the best TV channels in the world. This is only down to the unique way the TV is funded.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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elster said:
Fittster said:
A system funded by a tax you must pay if even you don't use the service is fundamentally wrong.

Get rid of the license now, make the BBC a subscription service.
The RFL as well?

The fact is it probably would be a good idea to get rid of the BBC just to generate a bit of cash to cut the deficit.

Losing the BBC is not worth that, possibly the best TV channels in the world. This is only down to the unique way the TV is funded.
The quality is a side issue.

There are lots of goods and services in the world that are very good, that doesn't mean it should be compulsory to buy them.

elster

17,517 posts

210 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Fittster said:
The quality is a side issue.

There are lots of goods and services in the world that are very good, that doesn't mean it should be compulsory to buy them.
OK, so you want to pay the licence fee and not get the BBC?

Or you would rather having to pay a private company for all channels, you can bet the free channels if there were any, would be having US style ad breaks?

As business sense you would be paying more than the current licence fee.

So you want to lose quality, price and lack of adverts. As well as the minority crowds on the educational programs.

Edited by elster on Monday 28th June 10:16

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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The beeb is probably the best value of all the government stuff we pay for. I pay loads more tax for the dole scum and I don't get a pet chav to do my garden.

munroman

1,831 posts

184 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Yes - I absolutely love ITV a nd Channel 4and the way they handle evertything - especially their sports coverage. The ITV years of F1 coverage were the best ever. The constant ad breaks during the race added so much to each race weekend. I really miss this aspect of F1 coverage and find the constant unbroken coverage as seen on BBC terribly frustrating. There is nothing better than coming back after an ad break to find that you've missed the only overtaking manoeuver of the race or the only goal of the game.

And while you're at it it, abolish all the radio coverage and website material they carry as that is just so much junk. I mean, who wants to be intellectually stimulated or eductated or challenged by the media. Give me "You've Been Framed", "Britain's Got Talent" or "Big Brother" any day.

Yes - commercial is best. Shut down the BBC straight away and refund me the exhorbitant 3p a day they charge. Outrageous!


Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 28th June 09:57
Eh, I get a figure of 40 p per day based on £145.50 pa?