To Kinect or not to Kinect?

To Kinect or not to Kinect?

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Dan_1981

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17,416 posts

200 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Hmmm Im buying my replacement xbox anytime from today to the next couple of days.....

I'd written kinnect off as a gimmicky toy but saw someone playing with one today and it did look very good.

So gimmicky toy that I dont need or the future of gaming that I should wait for and purchase next Wednesday?

Curry Burns

5,620 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Well I'm not sure what your talking about, but I was musing about KINECT the other day and thought it would be useful if you used your xbox as a dvd player / sky box/ zune movies and music etc....not much use for anything else!

Dan_1981

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17,416 posts

200 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Curry Burns said:
Well I'm not sure what your talking about, but I was musing about KINECT the other day and thought it would be useful if you used your xbox as a dvd player / sky box/ zune movies and music etc....not much use for anything else!
Project Natal then!

Hmm I do use it a bit for it's media capabilities...,

dxg

8,243 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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There's a really good video review on engagdet. Ten minutes odd of commentary. Their conclusion is "close but not quite." They really like the experience, but find the lack of buttons a problem and wonder just what types of gameplay that limitation will impose.

So - for me - not yet. It's a wait and see.

(Although the Yoga application looks awesome)

Edited by dxg on Thursday 4th November 12:07

Silverbullet767

10,716 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Good idea, but not for me unless they include it's functionality in non wii like shovlewear. And I already own an xbox remote control for browsing menus.

Goa'uld

646 posts

203 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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I was pretty taken in by all the hype and hopes that were being talked about in the early life of Natal - that demo with Milo the AI was very impressive, together with the speed of the system it looked like an impressive bit of kit (who can really say no to controlling your xbox like Captain Picard?! "XBOX, play movie, make it so") but the more I see of it the less I like. I sat and went through some of the streaming vids on the dashboard and it seems so slow - like it would eventually just get in the way of what you want to be doing.

The hand gesture thing in particular is pretty stupid I think, where you have to hover over the selection for a good while before it will accept, I would honestly feel like a muppet if I was doing that as opposed to just pressing either the media remote or controller which work instantly. What happens if you reach for a drink or someone gets up off the sofa while you're doing it and affect your aim - it seems like style over substance at this stage.

Quite simply I don't think that at this stage Kinect can deliver what us geeks were expecting - perhaps too much hype from the hype King Peter Molyneux et al had been thrown around before the launch. It looks fine as a toy and a bit of fun but at the moment ahm oot.

Neil H

15,323 posts

252 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Hype. Are there any games that actually use it yet?

It's just a gimmick for the kiddies to put on their Christmas list and have bragging rights over their Wii-owning peers.

Ikemi

8,449 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Neil H said:
Hype. Are there any games that actually use it yet?

It's just a gimmick for the kiddies to put on their Christmas list and have bragging rights over their Wii-owning peers.
There are a few Kinect specific games that will be released alongside the unit, although none of them would interest most gamers. The majority of them seem to be aimed at families or young children. Here are some reviews of the Kinect games:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/per...

XMG5

1,082 posts

228 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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If the "extremely short supply" claims are correct then maybe the numbers of units made are being restricted in case of poor take-up? Less unsold units to dispose of later perhaps.

I can't help thinking it's Microsoft trying to tap into the Wii market. The games will have to stay simple in order to control them with delayed hand gestures. One for all the grannies out there to buy Little Johnnie for Xmas.

ZesPak

24,439 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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I've pre-ordered a new xbox, and since the kinect was "only" 100€ then (instead of 150€), I took the plunge.

I'll update as soon as I test it out, hopefully next week on promised launch date.

trooperiziz

9,456 posts

253 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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You can't control the xbox dashboard from it, nor the media player. The only thing you can gesture control is Zune.
Also, you need to be 6ft away from the TV for single player, 9ft away for 2 player, and need to have 5ft of space either side of you.

It's crap and broken basically biggrin

ZesPak

24,439 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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trooperiziz said:
You can't control the xbox dashboard from it, nor the media player. The only thing you can gesture control is Zune.
Also, you need to be 6ft away from the TV for single player, 9ft away for 2 player, and need to have 5ft of space either side of you.

It's crap and broken basically biggrin
Source plz?

trooperiziz

9,456 posts

253 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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ZesPak said:
trooperiziz said:
You can't control the xbox dashboard from it, nor the media player. The only thing you can gesture control is Zune.
Also, you need to be 6ft away from the TV for single player, 9ft away for 2 player, and need to have 5ft of space either side of you.

It's crap and broken basically biggrin
Source plz?
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/04/kinect-review/

Thorburn

2,399 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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trooperiziz said:
You can't control the xbox dashboard from it, nor the media player. The only thing you can gesture control is Zune.
Also, you need to be 6ft away from the TV for single player, 9ft away for 2 player, and need to have 5ft of space either side of you.

It's crap and broken basically biggrin
Reading around space means I couldn't even consider it, my lounge simply doesn't have enough distance between the TV and the sofa.

I wouldn't call it broken as such, but the camera is only going to have a limited field of view.

Never been that enthused by the Wii or PS3 Move either mind.

ZesPak

24,439 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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I've played on a PS3 Move and really thought it was pretty crap, much preferred the Wii alternative.

The Kinect is another beast though, as it's really something else.
I'll look into the space issue, but other than that they (reviewers) seem to be pretty enthusiastic about it? In a way that, if you have the space, it actually works pretty good?

How is it broken and crap?

freecar

4,249 posts

188 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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ZesPak said:
I've played on a PS3 Move and really thought it was pretty crap, much preferred the Wii alternative.

The Kinect is another beast though, as it's really something else.
I'll look into the space issue, but other than that they (reviewers) seem to be pretty enthusiastic about it? In a way that, if you have the space, it actually works pretty good?

How is it broken and crap?
Did you read the very detailed review that was linked a couple of posts ago? I didn't think it would be that good but I actually have doubts of it ever being released. If released I believe it will go the way of the atari lynx or sega gamegear, it works but is soon forgotten.

Dan_1981

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17,416 posts

200 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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freecar said:
ZesPak said:
I've played on a PS3 Move and really thought it was pretty crap, much preferred the Wii alternative.

The Kinect is another beast though, as it's really something else.
I'll look into the space issue, but other than that they (reviewers) seem to be pretty enthusiastic about it? In a way that, if you have the space, it actually works pretty good?

How is it broken and crap?
Did you read the very detailed review that was linked a couple of posts ago? I didn't think it would be that good but I actually have doubts of it ever being released. If released I believe it will go the way of the atari lynx or sega gamegear, it works but is soon forgotten.
You doubt it will be relased at all??

Isn't realse date next wednesday? My local gamestation had one set up to try out today?

ZesPak

24,439 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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freecar said:
ZesPak said:
I've played on a PS3 Move and really thought it was pretty crap, much preferred the Wii alternative.

The Kinect is another beast though, as it's really something else.
I'll look into the space issue, but other than that they (reviewers) seem to be pretty enthusiastic about it? In a way that, if you have the space, it actually works pretty good?

How is it broken and crap?
Did you read the very detailed review that was linked a couple of posts ago? I didn't think it would be that good but I actually have doubts of it ever being released. If released I believe it will go the way of the atari lynx or sega gamegear, it works but is soon forgotten.
... euhm I think it's released next week, and it's no GT5 story.
As for the likes of the Lynx, well, that was very well received, although with it's faults.
I read the review and a couple of other reviews and all seem to be on the same track:

- Needs some work in the menu navigation (although some games seem to get that right)
- Needs more games (what platform doesn't on release?)
- Needs a lot of space to operate (sorry, but I tried to play wii tennis in a 10ft living room, and that doesn't work either)
- Some games make great use of it and it works there without many faults

So overall seems pretty good for quite a unique/revolutionary concept imho.

Salgar

3,283 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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ZesPak said:
freecar said:
ZesPak said:
I've played on a PS3 Move and really thought it was pretty crap, much preferred the Wii alternative.

The Kinect is another beast though, as it's really something else.
I'll look into the space issue, but other than that they (reviewers) seem to be pretty enthusiastic about it? In a way that, if you have the space, it actually works pretty good?

How is it broken and crap?
Did you read the very detailed review that was linked a couple of posts ago? I didn't think it would be that good but I actually have doubts of it ever being released. If released I believe it will go the way of the atari lynx or sega gamegear, it works but is soon forgotten.
... euhm I think it's released next week, and it's no GT5 story.
As for the likes of the Lynx, well, that was very well received, although with it's faults.
I read the review and a couple of other reviews and all seem to be on the same track:

- Needs some work in the menu navigation (although some games seem to get that right)
- Needs more games (what platform doesn't on release?)
- Needs a lot of space to operate (sorry, but I tried to play wii tennis in a 10ft living room, and that doesn't work either)
- Some games make great use of it and it works there without many faults

So overall seems pretty good for quite a unique/revolutionary concept imho.
Maybe, but the gameplay of all the games I've seen reviews for so far seem to have Very similar gameplay to that of the wii. And for that reason, until they can bring out a 'real' game, that I can play on my own (albeit on XBL or not), I won't be considering it, just like I didn't consider the wii. I have no doubt it will be fun when you have mates round, but tbh, when I have my mates round we do other stuff.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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It sounds like a waste of time to me.

No thanks!