Police Spin Exposed!

[telecat]

Don't know if you agree with the tactics but I felt at the time the Police were being a bit too cautious!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3715273.stm

[bluepolarbear]

Hope all you fools remember it when you are queing up for your ID cards and handing across your biometric data.

[busa_rush]

I fully support him in this cause. The police once again are over reacting, seems to be a common reaction these days in Govt, civil service etc.

How can this hasten the implementation of ID cards ? They knew who he was !

What they don't seem to like is the fact he's a "maverick", not "towing the party line" . . . we need more people like him ! People willing to think independantly from the masses and act on their beliefs.

[streaky]

"But the jury heard excerpts from police logs making it clear senior officers not only treated the road closures as a "bargaining tool" to get him to come down, but felt the prosecution case could be "weakened" if they were lifted."

So, for the sake on not "weakening" the case for the prosecution for "causing a public nuisance" - which admittedly can attract a custodial sentence - tens of thousands of motorists' journeys were disrupted and the Congestion Charge had to be suspended on diversion routes.

Mind you, Nicholas Muton was found guilty of a similar offence in June 2003 (threated to hang himself on M1 bridge - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/3016878.stm) and received (IIRC) a custodial sentence ... and he was only up there for eight hours.

Streaky

[bluepolarbear]

busa_rush said:

How can this hasten the implementation of ID cards ? They knew who he was !

The introduction of ID cards is an inrevokable decision. They do nothing to prevent terrorism (all the 9/11 terrorists had valid ID) and they do not prevent illegal immigration. At best the the prevent illegal immigrants claiming dole but instead will encourage an uncontrolled black market workforce.

However, what is important is that those wanting ID cards are placing an unbounded element of their trust and their children's trust in this and all future governments not to abuse the process legitimely or illegitimely.

This is one of a thousand examples where the authority has abused the powers given to them - so track record shows they can't be trusted not to abuse the significant power ID cards bring a government.

Legitimely abuse - your ID card contains medical information - heart disease and obesity are at epedemic levels. How about giving pizza land the terminal to read your card and refusing to serve you if your medic data indicates you shouldn't be on a diet of 12inch cheezy crust with all the toppings.

Far fetched? Governments want to control, ID cards especially the technically enhanced cards being proposed give them undreamed of means of control you.

Please see beyond the shallow "nothing to hide nothing to fear" twaddle.

[james_j]

bluepolarbear said:

busa_rush said: How can this hasten the implementation of ID cards ? They knew who he was ! Please see beyond the shallow "nothing to hide nothing to fear" twaddle.

Dead right. That sort of thinking is as shallow as "speed kills".

[ATG]

bluepolarbear said:

Hope all you fools remember it when you are queing up for your ID cards and handing across your biometric data.

What on earth does this thread have to do with ID cards?

[andygo]

Who cares. ID cards stink.

[deltaf]

andygo said:

Who cares. ID cards stink.

They do when bluntkit has swiped em up his card reader....