Parking Eye & Underhand Tactics
Discussion
davethebunny said:
parking charge notice = bin. Do not acknowledge anything
penalty charge notice = appeal or pay up
Is this for real?penalty charge notice = appeal or pay up
Overstayed the two hour limit at Gordano Services recently. Had a £100 fine arrive through the door today so as they have my car both entering and leaving the car park on film (and have included pictures), can I still ignore it?
GloverMart said:
Is this for real?
Overstayed the two hour limit at Gordano Services recently. Had a £100 fine arrive through the door today so as they have my car both entering and leaving the car park on film (and have included pictures), can I still ignore it?
How long did you overstay?Overstayed the two hour limit at Gordano Services recently. Had a £100 fine arrive through the door today so as they have my car both entering and leaving the car park on film (and have included pictures), can I still ignore it?
GloverMart said:
Is this for real?
Overstayed the two hour limit at Gordano Services recently. Had a £100 fine arrive through the door today so as they have my car both entering and leaving the car park on film (and have included pictures), can I still ignore it?
It didn't show it actually parked, then, did it? Overstayed the two hour limit at Gordano Services recently. Had a £100 fine arrive through the door today so as they have my car both entering and leaving the car park on film (and have included pictures), can I still ignore it?
fatboy b said:
Yep. Ignore.
Will you pay the damages, costs and expenses for him and everyone else who takes your advice if the PPC successfully pursue a ticket?The fact is, there's nothing to stop a PPC or landowner enforcing a charge against the driver or Registered Keeper, assuming they have complied with the law and have a valid contract or are a party with sufficient interest to sue for tresspass.
GloverMart said:
Mill Wheel said:
How long did you overstay?
Oh, way over. It was an interview I was carrying out and lost track of time (no excuse I know!).Allowed 2 hours, was in there for 3 hours 22 minutes.
rigga said:
Then their actual loss is the ammount they charge to park times the extra time you were overrun ....to claim anymore is ludicrous and if anything that's all they should levvy as that's their only loss.
In reality, there is no loss unless the car park was full? And even then it is the on-site retailers who would have lost potential revenue.I wish people would stop spouting on about how PPCs won't be able to establish their losses, as if it's some kind of flat impossibility. The damages for breach of contract will likely include a small amount for the lost parking revenue, along with larger costs for administrating the follow up actions following the breach. They will also be able to recover a small amount of their legal costs plus travelling expenses.
A £50 ticket can soon become a £200 bill from the court.
Of course, if you parked as per the rules in the first place, you could have avoided the risk in the first place.
A £50 ticket can soon become a £200 bill from the court.
Of course, if you parked as per the rules in the first place, you could have avoided the risk in the first place.
And equally if PPC had not pretended that their "invoices" were legal documents, this situation may never have arisen . OK- I can see some landowners point. I get chavs deciding that a visit to their "supplier" means that thay can park across my drive, with my car in it.
Our local supermarkets at one time had an excellent way of policing parking on busy days - they set up barriers and asked for a receipt from their store . but this cost them wages . But it was simple & effictive,till they got seduced by the parking firms that have insenced shoppers to move store . I need a wide space as I've got mobility problems. But my local stores have two choices - have a kid in ,or a blue badge. And one has it's resident attendants- a squad of foul mouthed mothers who see no wrong with mothers filling up the disabled bays but who object to disabled & elderly using empty parent spaces if the disabled spaces are occupied by dyslexic mothers .Me - I vote with my wallet and feet .
Our local supermarkets at one time had an excellent way of policing parking on busy days - they set up barriers and asked for a receipt from their store . but this cost them wages . But it was simple & effictive,till they got seduced by the parking firms that have insenced shoppers to move store . I need a wide space as I've got mobility problems. But my local stores have two choices - have a kid in ,or a blue badge. And one has it's resident attendants- a squad of foul mouthed mothers who see no wrong with mothers filling up the disabled bays but who object to disabled & elderly using empty parent spaces if the disabled spaces are occupied by dyslexic mothers .Me - I vote with my wallet and feet .
10 Pence Short said:
I wish people would stop spouting on about how PPCs won't be able to establish their losses, as if it's some kind of flat impossibility. The damages for breach of contract will likely include a small amount for the lost parking revenue, along with larger costs for administrating the follow up actions following the breach. They will also be able to recover a small amount of their legal costs plus travelling expenses.
A £50 ticket can soon become a £200 bill from the court.
Of course, if you parked as per the rules in the first place, you could have avoided the risk in the first place.
Clearly, there should be no charges and no unreasonable limits for people who park on these sites while they are using the facilities. It is a motorway services area, after all. Remember, "Tiredness Kills" (but only when the "Speed Kills" hasn't got you first!) Were the charges (and 'penalties') only really intended for the people leaving their cars all day, e.g. for the obnoxious offence of 'car-sharing' that is otherwise so encouraged in this 'green' world?A £50 ticket can soon become a £200 bill from the court.
Of course, if you parked as per the rules in the first place, you could have avoided the risk in the first place.
If the car park is not full, there is no loss to anybody. These 'penalties' are just part of the nasty country this beautiful England has become.
Steff1965 said:
When did that happen?
If your defence is that you weren't the driver and it reaches court, the court (either on its own accord or a question from the other side) is perfectly entitled to ask you if you were the driver. If you refuse to answer it's contempt of court and if you lie it's either perjury or perverting the course of justice.10 Pence Short said:
If your defence is that you weren't the driver and it reaches court, the court (either on its own accord or a question from the other side) is perfectly entitled to ask you if you were the driver. If you refuse to answer it's contempt of court and if you lie it's either perjury or perverting the course of justice.
In a civil claim via county court for a parking "fine"?10 Pence Short said:
fatboy b said:
Yep. Ignore.
Will you pay the damages, costs and expenses for him and everyone else who takes your advice if the PPC successfully pursue a ticket?The fact is, there's nothing to stop a PPC or landowner enforcing a charge against the driver or Registered Keeper, assuming they have complied with the law and have a valid contract or are a party with sufficient interest to sue for tresspass.
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