Fly-Tipping

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jap-car

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613 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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This is nothing to do with cars but has really annoyed me. A friend of mine lives in the countryside close to an area popular with walkers etc. Yesterday she noticed that someone has dumped a load of rubbish bags at the side of the track in this area. They had obviously been taken there by car. Animals had started to tear the bags open and household waste / old nappies etc was spewing out. She used a stick to rake through this junk and found a wage slip with the address of the person who had presumably dumped it. The address was a couple of miles away.

She phoned the police and they said they would contact the council to pick up the rubbish but wouldn’t take any other action. This annoyed her, having gone to the effort of finding the offending address. What can she do if anything? (and no she won’t be taking the matter into her own hands ) .

The other thing is that there is a local council tip (open 7 days/week) – I don’t understand some folks.

tycho

11,647 posts

274 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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She should go round in the middle of the night with it and spread it round their front garden.

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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Yep, take it back to 'em.

No excuse for dumping domestic waste like that.

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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A few tons of sand or gravel, delivered, is surprisingly cheap and can be paid for with cash.

>> Edited by john_p on Thursday 20th May 11:37

chris1roll

1,699 posts

245 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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God that would irritate me too. Domestic waste there is no excuse for.

However our local tip won't take half the stuff it used to anymore. We tried to take all the interiours we'd stripped out of the stock cars, which they had previously taken without comment, only to be told "New rules, no car bits at all, you'll have to take it to a scrapyard"
yeah, a scrapyard would just laugh at us if we turned up with that for them.
Whilst we were there the "supervisors" were making anyone with bags of rubbish open them up, and going through them with a fine toothed comb,and sending back half of it!
We would never be tempted to fly tip, but we now have a 10ft x 10ft tin shed full to the top with unwanted car interiours / bumpers etc, that we don't know what to do with. We're going to have to hire a skip, but that isn't going to be cheap (for us).
I can just see these new rules causing more and more fly tipping. In fact just outside the gates stuff was being dumped.

On a similar note, our local scrap metal merchants are currently still taking scrap cars for free, so most people locally just drop them off there and they get crushed there and then. Due to new legislation apparently they are going to have to strip them out, and drain all the fluids out of them before hand, so they will be charging. Bet we'll be seeing a lot more dumped cars about soon.

>> Edited by chris1roll on Thursday 20th May 11:39

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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john_p said:
A few tons of sand or gravel, delivered, is surprisingly cheap and can be paid for with cash.

>> Edited by john_p on Thursday 20th May 11:37


Now that is a handy thing to know...

PH is a wonderful thing.

puggit

48,516 posts

249 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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I agree with chris1roll - trips to the tip are now a farce. It takes 30-60 mins to queue for the tip in Reading on a sunny weekend. When you get there some officious little w@nker strolls up to your car and watches you unload every little scrap of rubbish. Garden waste here, rubble there, metal here, wood there.....

I'm not surprised people flytip, and the thought has crossed my mind. Sorry, I like to be green, but I pay my council tax to have my rubbish collected, and a tip where I can just lob stuff...

Makes me mad

PS - when I take appliances to the tip now, I always leave them looking like they could be useful, but secretly sabotaged so the little hitlers can't get any use from scavenging for them!

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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tycho said:
She should go round in the middle of the night with it and spread it round their front garden.


It's the only solution. I doubt it can be an offence either, as you are merely returning lost property

Big_M

5,602 posts

264 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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If she has the wage slip she could phone up the employer all concerned like. Don't suppose any employer would be too impressed with an employee who flytips.

mcflurry

9,101 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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Hippobags are a brilliant alternative to a skip. They cost 8-10 credits from Wickes / Homebase and hold either a ton, or 1.5 tons (bigger bags)
You then call them when you bag is full and for £29 they collect a couple of days later as though it were a skip. A lot cheaper than a skip and no planning permission needed

chris1roll

1,699 posts

245 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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Oh, we turned up with it all separated into metal, carborad(door panels) plastic etc, but they wouldn't take any of it cos it had come out of a car!!

Wouldn't even let it go in the mixed waste skip, which would only go to landfill anyway, which is pretty much what will happen when we hire a skip, so whats the point, its the same hole!

Your right about the officious part too, he comes over peers into the estate and trailer blows a low whistle and goes "oh no no no no no, can't have that here"

edited to say; Thakns for the tip mcflurry, i'll look into that one.

>> Edited by chris1roll on Thursday 20th May 11:57

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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mcflurry said:
Hippobags are a brilliant alternative to a skip. They cost 8-10 credits from Wickes / Homebase and hold either a ton, or 1.5 tons (bigger bags)
You then call them when you bag is full and for £29 they collect a couple of days later as though it were a skip. A lot cheaper than a skip and no planning permission needed



Brilliant !!.. got any more info...?

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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It does annoy me that Bucks council are now employing various investigators and using cameras to catch people fly tipping and then prosecute them etc.

It'd be more efficient to ensure that all waste collection/disposal is free and not have to waste money on nonsense like this.

It's not like people aren't going to generate waste because of the cost.

puggit

48,516 posts

249 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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puggit said:
TRY GOOGLE

www.hippowaste.co.uk/


Thanks.. i tried google for "hippobags" before posting, and you don't get anything useful..

JonRB

74,775 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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What a great idea.

>> Edited by JonRB on Thursday 20th May 12:35

woodytvr

622 posts

247 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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"hippobags" - Sounds like a suitable nickname for a girl I once knew.

jap-car

Original Poster:

613 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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tycho said:
She should go round in the middle of the night with it and spread it round their front garden.


That would involve touching it

So no way she could complain to the police and get them to do something?

The tip here will take anything. I recently dumped the front end of a Subaru, from just behind front wheel arches forward.

ashes

628 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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and exactly how is all this nonsense helping the environment?

Day after they changed the rules about fridges one appeared at the top of one of my fields.....

Now I am only allowed three black sacks of rubbish a week

Come the revolution the jobsworths up against the wall.....

zoom_jones

858 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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I used to live in a ground floor flat of a 3 storey victorina London town house. The house next door had been demolished and so was waste ground. Days before bin collection the residents would leave their rubbish outside my door on the waste ground/pavement edge. In summer I would open my front door to a swarm of flies, god knows what else made it in there... Foxes, rats all sorts, right outside my front door. It pi$$ed me off so I went through the bags, found out who it was and put them straight.

They soon stopped once they realised how much of their personal info they had left lying around on the street not to mention the mess, smell and inconvenience it caused. I wouldn't mind but there was space around the corner on the land (not ideal but not by someones front door!). What also annoyed me was that people see one bin bag and then think ooo I'll put my rubbish there! and in London I soon got used to coming home to finding old prams, fridges, freezers, tv's dumped outside my door on the pavement. God knows how many health and saftey laws violated, not to mention the danger posed to pedestrians. Numerous council/MP letters eventually helped the problem but in the end I moved to wheely bin surburbia! and the tip in Bracknell is great, sure you have to sort rubbish and queue on busy days but after what I had come from its blissful.