Fly-Tipping

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gh0st

4,693 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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zoom_jones said:
and the tip in Bracknell is great, sure you have to sort rubbish and queue on busy days but after what I had come from its blissful.


Yes I used to go to Bracknell town centre a lot as well.

Sounds like it hasnt changed...

puggit

48,516 posts

249 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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gh0st said:

zoom_jones said:
and the tip in Bracknell is great, sure you have to sort rubbish and queue on busy days but after what I had come from its blissful.



Yes I used to go to Bracknell town centre a lot as well.

Sounds like it hasnt changed...

zoom_jones

858 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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puggit said:

gh0st said:


zoom_jones said:
and the tip in Bracknell is great, sure you have to sort rubbish and queue on busy days but after what I had come from its blissful.




Yes I used to go to Bracknell town centre a lot as well.

Sounds like it hasnt changed...



jacko lah

3,297 posts

250 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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Don't ask what happened to the roof from my old garage ?

The Local Tip would not take it, so I used it for hard core 3 foot under the extended concrete base.

The old engine oil I mix with creosote and paint the fence with it. I don't recycle glass or newpaper, but I use my kids guinea pig waste for fertiliser on my allotment which is probabally illegal these days.

jap-car

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613 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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Is there an official complaints procedure through which she could complain about the lack of action by the police?

g_attrill

7,712 posts

247 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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Round our way we have the large wheelie bins. We also have doorstep recycling which takes most household waste except glass. We go to the local "waste dispoal centre" every other week to take glass and garden waste.

We fill our bin about 1/4 full every week, maybe half some weeks.

On bin collection day I drive down our road to see some bins overflowing, some people have TWO bins and don't seem to pay any extra. A neighbour has an illegal caravan, a lodger in a small caravan and car workshop and has THREE large bins overflowing every week with industrial waste!

The sooner we get charging by weight the better, but it would need some investment in fly tipping enforcement. I did see a programme where they set up hidden cameras at the popular places - seemed to work well.

Gareth

nonegreen

7,803 posts

271 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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I hired a skip last weekend, a really big one that cost me 200 quid. I filled it with garden waste, almost 16 tons of it. On Sunday Morning I went out to continue with the job and within a few mins a van pulled up and started putting rubbish in my skip. I asked hime politely to remove it. After 30 seconds of non repetetive verbal abuse from him I asked him again to remove it with the assistance of a pick axe handle. The tosser then backed down and started removing his rubbish, swearing he thought the council provided skips dotted around for public use. We really need some kind of method of maintaining the best genetic material. Skips could come in handy for this.....

Nightmare

5,194 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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jap-car

As far as I know, Fly-tiping is entirely illegal.

Interesting quick story for you : my magistrate relative had a cse before her recently where a local developer type had gone and tipped a load of junk, and this included a wage slip (like yours)- which was then traced to him and he ended up in court. Turned up looking super smug, with a 'well who cares, its only a bit of tipping' look on his face. Got a nasty shock when she bitch-slapped him soundly, told him arrogant, thoughtless little tossers like him were responsible for turning beautiful areas horrible, and fined him heavily. Even got in local paper...think everyone expected him to get a slap on the wrists - hence the reason he tipped in the first place. tenner says he wont be doing it again!!

So - that in mind - it is an offence which ends you up in court. I would guess that the police don't view it very seriously (it's only a bit of rubbish') and therefore can't be arsed to prosecute....i could be entirely wrong here and apologise to bib if thats the case)

I shall speak to relative and fidn out how exactl bloke ended up n court and if you can do same thing

Personally I think it's f**king disgraceful. I understand that it isn't as easy to get rid of stuff anymore...so what? It takes you and everyone else a bit more effort. It's no excuse to say "bastard council have changed the rules so I'll just go and bung it in this persons garden' is it?

Night

jap-car

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613 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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Nightmare said:
jap-car

As far as I know, Fly-tiping is entirely illegal.

Interesting quick story for you : my magistrate relative had a cse before her recently where a local developer type had gone and tipped a load of junk, and this included a wage slip (like yours)- which was then traced to him and he ended up in court. Turned up looking super smug, with a 'well who cares, its only a bit of tipping' look on his face. Got a nasty shock when she bitch-slapped him soundly, told him arrogant, thoughtless little tossers like him were responsible for turning beautiful areas horrible, and fined him heavily. Even got in local paper...think everyone expected him to get a slap on the wrists - hence the reason he tipped in the first place. tenner says he wont be doing it again!!

So - that in mind - it is an offence which ends you up in court. I would guess that the police don't view it very seriously (it's only a bit of rubbish') and therefore can't be arsed to prosecute....i could be entirely wrong here and apologise to bib if thats the case)

I shall speak to relative and fidn out how exactl bloke ended up n court and if you can do same thing

Personally I think it's f**king disgraceful. I understand that it isn't as easy to get rid of stuff anymore...so what? It takes you and everyone else a bit more effort. It's no excuse to say "bastard council have changed the rules so I'll just go and bung it in this persons garden' is it?

Night



Thanks - would be very interested.

Big_M

5,602 posts

264 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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Guess you could always try the local paper. They might be interested as the culprit is known and the police are not interested.

Nightmare

5,194 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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righto - have talked to magi.....

turns out that it is the local council themselves who will prosecute. If you take the info/evidence to local council they will pursue it.....apparently!

zetecuk

80 posts

242 months

Thursday 20th May 2004
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The hardest thing these days is finding the places - searched all over the local council web site and phone directories, but I couldn't work out what "tips" are called these days - probably "environmental processing facilities" or some such crap.

Anyway, not being able to find a closer tip, we carried on using one about 5 miles away in the neighbouring county, which was next to B&Poo, so we were always by it anyway.

One day this council Hitler jumps out of his van and tells us he's been following us all the way from our house to the tip, and that we can't dump our stuff in Cheshire if we live in Flintshire! You should have seen him, he was foaming at the mouth, like this ingenious piece of espionage was the highlight of his miserable career.


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jap-car

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613 posts

251 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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Nightmare said:
righto - have talked to magi.....

turns out that it is the local council themselves who will prosecute. If you take the info/evidence to local council they will pursue it.....apparently!


Thank you. I will pass this message onto my friend. Maybe she misunderstood when the police said they wouldn't do anything more than pass the info onto the council. Ie it wasn't clear that the council themselves would actually prosecute. I'll let you know what happens

JohnL

1,763 posts

266 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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zetecuk said:
The hardest thing these days is finding the places - searched all over the local council web site and phone directories, but I couldn't work out what "tips" are called these days - probably "environmental processing facilities" or some such crap.


Ah, well, when I was looking for a tip after I moved house I tried a real clever trick: I telephoned the council

'Lo Rob!

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puggit

48,516 posts

249 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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zetecuk said:
The hardest thing these days is finding the places - searched all over the local council web site and phone directories, but I couldn't work out what "tips" are called these days - probably "environmental processing facilities" or some such crap.

Anyway, not being able to find a closer tip, we carried on using one about 5 miles away in the neighbouring county, which was next to B&Poo, so we were always by it anyway.

One day this council Hitler jumps out of his van and tells us he's been following us all the way from our house to the tip, and that we can't dump our stuff in Cheshire if we live in Flintshire! You should have seen him, he was foaming at the mouth, like this ingenious piece of espionage was the highlight of his miserable career.


>> Edited by zetecuk on Thursday 20th May 18:41
And what was this little Hitler doing in Flintshire?!

zetecuk

80 posts

242 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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JohnL said:

Ah, well, when I was looking for a tip after I moved house I tried a real clever trick: I telephoned the council


And got through to someone??? Rather than being passed from department to department before being connected to a line that is never answered or put on hold for infinity?



henrycrun

2,451 posts

241 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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postcode search for recycling facilities ?

http://uk2.multimap.com/clients/places.cgi?client=valpak

ATG

20,673 posts

273 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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Fly-tipping is terribly cruel. Their intestines can become knotted, their legs can break, they feel dreadfully embarassed and then farmers have to put them down with 12 bores. I read this recently on PisonHeads you know.

poorcardealer

8,527 posts

242 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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I dont agree with fly tipping but understand why people do it...........In west yorkshire each household is allocated a "tax disc" to put in their vehicle windscreen with a reg number on it...........this entitles you to use the tip nearest your house only.however try getting in there with a hired van full of household waste....no chance mate, tax disc doesnt correspond with vehicle.....its as hard getting in the tip as breaking out of colditz......trailer are only allowed in if they are under a certain small size........the cost of tipping trade waste is astronomic.....£59 a ton if my memory serves me............

chris1roll

1,699 posts

245 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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Well one reason they gave me was "its not exactly houshold waste, is it?" Well what else is it, it isn't trade waste, i race knackered old volvos for fun (and win ), at an expense. It certainly isn't trade waste either. However, the few bits of concrete we had, that could theoretically have been trade waste if i were a builder (i'm not) they took no problem.

This whole tipping nearest your house is silly too, guaruanteed the stuff they can't recycle goes into the same damn hole.

>> Edited by chris1roll on Friday 21st May 22:23

Edited teh second time cos i can't speel "whole"!

>> Edited by chris1roll on Friday 21st May 22:23