Do you trust the Police? **
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Have to say Im with Archie on this one - I think that the majority of peoples attitudes to each other, and especially 'targets in uniforms' is pretty disgraceful - and I try and go comlpetely the other way.
I have had a LOT of dealings with the Police; in part due to the fact I have been merrily criminal on occaision. I have only once (and it must be ina bout 50 encounters) met a copper I would consider a complete tw*t, and even then I understood why he was being one.... I have been stopped around 25 times (in 12 years of driving) and NEVER been given more than a producer, and have met them over very much more serious issues, and still found them just like everyone else.
I would definitely give a big thumbs up to Leicester Police too.
Trust? Were i in a bad situation, I can't think of any other group I'd call (except for Ghostbusters, Batman or the Big JC himself - but none of them ever answer....)
I have had a LOT of dealings with the Police; in part due to the fact I have been merrily criminal on occaision. I have only once (and it must be ina bout 50 encounters) met a copper I would consider a complete tw*t, and even then I understood why he was being one.... I have been stopped around 25 times (in 12 years of driving) and NEVER been given more than a producer, and have met them over very much more serious issues, and still found them just like everyone else.
I would definitely give a big thumbs up to Leicester Police too.
Trust? Were i in a bad situation, I can't think of any other group I'd call (except for Ghostbusters, Batman or the Big JC himself - but none of them ever answer....)
timf said:
I may post the photos of the traffic car I wrote off recently so you can all have a chuckle at my expense!!
dount you mean ate the tax payers expense
God I hope so...having just paid a B**t*rd tax bill of £11,454 for a f******g month I would love to think it wa spent on something fun like that rather than paying lazy people to stay at home!
(just being nice mate. 
) I personally think that the police get shafted with a lot of s**t from the seniour management, that they think is a good idea, which in fact wastes a lot of our time.
The best thing they've come up with recently is fixed penalty notices for public order offences.
Say you come out of the pub on Friday night, and are walking down the street shouting and swearing at everyone. You get nicked and spend the night sobering up in the cell.
When you wake up and are charged with S5 POA (The least serious public order offence) instead of wasting our time doing case papers (which take hours) we fill in a nice little ticket and you get an £80 fine instead!
The best thing they've come up with recently is fixed penalty notices for public order offences.
Say you come out of the pub on Friday night, and are walking down the street shouting and swearing at everyone. You get nicked and spend the night sobering up in the cell.
When you wake up and are charged with S5 POA (The least serious public order offence) instead of wasting our time doing case papers (which take hours) we fill in a nice little ticket and you get an £80 fine instead!
Whether we trust the police or not, they are all that stand between the public and riot/disorder.
The average officer of up to about Inspector, and I have several good friends in this sector, are really good guys (probably like the one who post on here!), but the CC's, ACC's, etc., are really just PR types and 'bean counters' who would be better placed doing a stock controllers job in Woolworths than running a police force (sorry, police service).
It's their actions which will drive the wedge increasingly between the public and Mr. Average Police Officer - a very sad state of affairs indeed.
Maybe the less senior officers should press their federation on this and threaten industrial action if some of the bad policies are not reversed.
The average officer of up to about Inspector, and I have several good friends in this sector, are really good guys (probably like the one who post on here!), but the CC's, ACC's, etc., are really just PR types and 'bean counters' who would be better placed doing a stock controllers job in Woolworths than running a police force (sorry, police service).
It's their actions which will drive the wedge increasingly between the public and Mr. Average Police Officer - a very sad state of affairs indeed.
Maybe the less senior officers should press their federation on this and threaten industrial action if some of the bad policies are not reversed.
I do my best to remember that police are fellow human beings. After teaching for a few years, I realised what crap you have to do for "The present system". They maybe human beings, but I only see police cars. In my life, I have dealt with the police about 7 times (or been dealt with). 5 Traffic related whinges and 2 times I wanted them to do something for me. 5 things got achieved, needless to say.
When I see a police car, I think "Sh!t" and the reason being, I might not have seen something that they are going to be looking for, did I check my chassis number when I bought the car? Do I have a split in a tyre. Are all my lights working NOW? I see a police car and I am aware that they would like to fill their quota with my nearly bald tyres, etc. The last bloke who pulled me (purely because I was driving a car which looked like it had just come out of a barn) was a really nice bloke and so was the woman I had to produce my docs for. They have a bad job to do.
I figure it like the way most Muslims do with regards to America/Americans.
A load of nice human beings adding up to a pretty unsavoury country on the whole.
When I see a police car, I think "Sh!t" and the reason being, I might not have seen something that they are going to be looking for, did I check my chassis number when I bought the car? Do I have a split in a tyre. Are all my lights working NOW? I see a police car and I am aware that they would like to fill their quota with my nearly bald tyres, etc. The last bloke who pulled me (purely because I was driving a car which looked like it had just come out of a barn) was a really nice bloke and so was the woman I had to produce my docs for. They have a bad job to do.
I figure it like the way most Muslims do with regards to America/Americans.
A load of nice human beings adding up to a pretty unsavoury country on the whole.
Instruments or not, that doesn't mean that a large %age of them have to have a bad attitude.
The top of any organisation, plod, civil service, private company etc is always going to have a degree of coruptiuon, theft, intimidation etc but one would have hoped that the poeple who's job it is to interface with the public would have at least some basic people skills. There are the odd ones who are pleasant but the majority seem to be either on an ego trip, in a permanent bad mood or drunk/drugged.
They'd find life much esier and regain the respect they've lost if they treated others with repect.
I wouldn't trust any plod who had been in the service for more than a year, just my experience, your mileage may vary.
The top of any organisation, plod, civil service, private company etc is always going to have a degree of coruptiuon, theft, intimidation etc but one would have hoped that the poeple who's job it is to interface with the public would have at least some basic people skills. There are the odd ones who are pleasant but the majority seem to be either on an ego trip, in a permanent bad mood or drunk/drugged.
They'd find life much esier and regain the respect they've lost if they treated others with repect.
I wouldn't trust any plod who had been in the service for more than a year, just my experience, your mileage may vary.
busa_rush said:
Instruments or not, that doesn't mean that a large %age of them have to have a bad attitude.
The top of any organisation, plod, civil service, private company etc is always going to have a degree of coruptiuon, theft, intimidation etc but one would have hoped that the poeple who's job it is to interface with the public would have at least some basic people skills. There are the odd ones who are pleasant but the majority seem to be either on an ego trip, in a permanent bad mood or drunk/drugged.
They'd find life much esier and regain the respect they've lost if they treated others with repect.
I wouldn't trust any plod who had been in the service for more than a year, just my experience, your mileage may vary.
Must disagree with that. Don't confuse keen young officers for those with attitude.
Yes, they may be a bit wet behind the ears, but with the right guidance from a silly old sod that is a bit worn out they get the right idea.
I am amazed we still get keen young recruits with the crap they have to put up with. Good on them I say.......ah well, wheres my slippers...
I won't bore you again with my involvement with the police but in my experience (99% on the right side of the law, working with them), even the plod I know locally (I have one as a neighbour) I don't feel comfortable with and would not use the word trust to describe how I feel about them.
I'm sure there are some, maybe those that post on this forum, who can be trusted, but I've not met any and the ones I have met in the past couple of years have done nothing to change my view.
Generalisation ? Maybe, but until I meet some who I feel can be trusted, my view won't change.
I'm sure there are some, maybe those that post on this forum, who can be trusted, but I've not met any and the ones I have met in the past couple of years have done nothing to change my view.
Generalisation ? Maybe, but until I meet some who I feel can be trusted, my view won't change.
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