What's your opinion on this then...?

What's your opinion on this then...?

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Streetcop

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5,907 posts

239 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Have a look at the following website that has been pointed out to me:

www.southyorkpolice.co.uk

What's your views on its content and the intentions of its writer.

Thanks,

Gary Street

>>> Edited by Streetcop on Tuesday 13th July 16:43

Buffalo

5,435 posts

255 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Interesting web site. Quite a bit of info, but i couldn't get the bit about speed camera tests to work...

Liked the bit about the fast police cars and the smashed up ones! At least you guys *do* have a sense of humour!

Fair play on trying to get information across that lots of people fall foul over....

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

257 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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It has the initial appearance of a genuine site but on closer inspection it clearly isn't. I would have thought that the police might want it closed down to avoid confusion, even if they can't pin an "impersonation" charge on it.

The content seems quite mild (though I've not investigated every link), but I'm not sure of the intentions of the author.

>> Edited by Peter Ward on Tuesday 13th July 19:59

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

239 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Buffalo said:
Interesting web site. Quite a bit of info, but i couldn't get the bit about speed camera tests to work...

Liked the bit about the fast police cars and the smashed up ones! At least you guys *do* have a sense of humour!

Fair play on trying to get information across that lots of people fall foul over....


Buffalo...you've hit the nail on the head....

It is a spoof website by a 'closet copper'.....(the kind of guy that would buy that ex-traffic car from e-bay...



Street

mrwomble

9,630 posts

256 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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All the links go back through a shef.ac.uk address...wonder if the university approve of the site? After all, there's nothing on there to specifically say that it isn't anything to do with S. Yorks police.

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

239 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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mrwomble said:
All the links go back through a shef.ac.uk address...wonder if the university approve of the site? After all, there's nothing on there to specifically say that it isn't anything to do with S. Yorks police.


Thanks mate..
tell me more about the address and stuff...I'm not too much up on computer identities etc.

Street

rsvnigel

600 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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The person that owns the domain name, i.e. the southyorkpolice.co.uk has clevely put the name of the registrant down as 'n/a' but left the address as High Storrs Road, Sheffield.

The site itself is actually hosted in Germany, but as mrwomble said all the links go back to Sheffield Uni.


Streetcop

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5,907 posts

239 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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rsvnigel said:
The person that owns the domain name, i.e. the southyorkpolice.co.uk has clevely put the name of the registrant down as 'n/a' but left the address as High Storrs Road, Sheffield.

The site itself is actually hosted in Germany, but as mrwomble said all the links go back to Sheffield Uni.




Good work Nige...where on the site is that?

Street

rsvnigel

600 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Streetcop said:
Good work Nige...where on the site is that?

It's not, you just need to run a 'whois' query on the domain name and it coughs up the information

Have a look at geektools and type the domain name, without the www subdomain bit into the whois box


>> Edited by rsvnigel on Tuesday 13th July 17:20

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

239 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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rsvnigel said:

Streetcop said:
Good work Nige...where on the site is that?


It's not, you just need to run a 'whois' query on the domain name and it coughs up the information

Have a look at geektools and type the domain name, without the www subdomain bit into the whois box


>> Edited by rsvnigel on Tuesday 13th July 17:20


Found it Nige...The numpty left his home address on it....

Where is the university address found?

Street

rsvnigel

600 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Streetcop said:
Found it Nige...The numpty left his home address on it....

Where is the university address found?

Street
Just hover the mouse over any of the links down the left hand side, and look at the status bar on internet explorer.

e.g The smashed car link actually points at:
www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/mdb/police/crashed.htm

At a guess his initials are mdb.

mrwomble

9,630 posts

256 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Not really my field of expertise, but here goes

If you click any link on the page, then (with Opera at least) it tells you you're getting data from shef.ac.uk

Grabbing the actual link address then shows that the website is really located at

www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/mdb/police

- www.southyorkpolice.co.uk just redirects you to the Sheffield address. If we then check out the domain -

http://195.66.240.211/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=southyorkpolice.co.uk&x=22&y=4

we can see that it's registered (with no name, naughty naughty) to an address in Sheffield, through a German company

http://registrar.schlund.info/

whose UK branch appear to be

www.1and1.co.uk/

So there you go - we don't know who s/he is yet, but poking around the Sheffield website may reveal more. We do know where the domain is registered to - may or may not be where they live - and we've got the contact details of the domain registrant, who really shouldn't have registered it without putting in the owners name. It probably wouldn't be too hard to find out more - the Sheffield Uni website would be a good place to start I reckon.

Remember - you're never really anonymous

g_attrill

7,687 posts

247 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Have a look at www.dorsetpolice.com too.

The owner of that domain kept it after the WIPO ruled that it was a genuine criticism site and was "free speech".

The Nominet Dispute Resolution Policy is similar but requires an element of "bad faith" AND rights to the name. I am not sure "southyorkpolice" would satisfy that, but that is for the arbiter to decide. Look at www.nominet.org.uk for previous rulings.

Other tacks are "passing off", copyright infringement etc.

Gareth (Nominet Member)

g_attrill

7,687 posts

247 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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No rules broken, just don't like people's personal details being posted on the site without their permission.

Ted

mrwomble

9,630 posts

256 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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g_attrill said:
Have a look at www.dorsetpolice.com too.


Although that has a big 'This is not the Dorset Police website' message at the top of the first page - something conspicuously lacking from the southyorkpolice page.

pies

13,116 posts

257 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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No rules broken, just don't like people's personal details being posted on the site without their permission.

Ted

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

239 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Spot on guys...You should all work with me......

I will pass my finding onto a friend who works S.Yorks and see what they think..

Street

>> Edited by Streetcop on Tuesday 13th July 18:12

rsvnigel

600 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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You probably want to have you mate speak to him about that ickle number plate on the front, and that badly placed screw on the rear

www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/mdb/supra/gallery.htm

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

239 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Found them Nige....

Mmm....something very fishy about the whole thing..isn't there...

Street

plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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How long has there been a braille edition of Dreamweaver then?