Hazchem - What do you know?
Discussion
Tony,
This booklet is produced by a friend of mine and carried by a number of Police Forces. Do you guys have them in your Traffic Cars...?
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Roop
This booklet is produced by a friend of mine and carried by a number of Police Forces. Do you guys have them in your Traffic Cars...?
www.symbolseeker.com
Roop
Road tanker overturned near our site a while ago.
Fire engines came, road closed and lots of yellow banana shapes running around, using breathing apparatus.
Rang the local council's emergency helpline and asked if we should evacuate the site.
Dunno love, was the reply, could you wander down and ask one of the firemen?
Yes of course, I said, could you hold on and if I'm not back in 5 minutes then assume I'm dead!
Fire engines came, road closed and lots of yellow banana shapes running around, using breathing apparatus.
Rang the local council's emergency helpline and asked if we should evacuate the site.
Dunno love, was the reply, could you wander down and ask one of the firemen?
Yes of course, I said, could you hold on and if I'm not back in 5 minutes then assume I'm dead!
- Streaky I am ADR trained, which means I can shift this stuff if i want too. TBH, I DONT want too!( rather shift tins of beans for just a little less dosh) The training received is pitifully inadequate and really only teaches you to hand over to the professionals asap.
The most important thing to get hold of (as stated previously), is the TREMcard. This is a sheet of card which SHOULD be in a purpose built holder in the cab. It carries all details of the substance and what to do in case of emergency. Also try and obtain the delivery manifest - companies have been known to forget to change the card. Also do not lose sight of the driver!! (unless he`s injured of course). He may have valuable additional information.
With reference to the phone number on the truck, this is not for you to ring to tell them there has been an accident and find out what to do. This is intended to be for the Fire & Rescue service to obtain additional info not on the TREMcard. e.g. truck carrying substance "a" has just collided with truck carrying substance "b" - how fast should we run?!
Best advice is to keep away from any chemical incident and leave it to the professionals.
Incidently, one of the most "dangerous" substances is milk. If untreated milk enters a water course, it can be a biological disaster. If you have a leaking milk tanker, call Trumpton urgently to contain the spillage.
The most important thing to get hold of (as stated previously), is the TREMcard. This is a sheet of card which SHOULD be in a purpose built holder in the cab. It carries all details of the substance and what to do in case of emergency. Also try and obtain the delivery manifest - companies have been known to forget to change the card. Also do not lose sight of the driver!! (unless he`s injured of course). He may have valuable additional information.
With reference to the phone number on the truck, this is not for you to ring to tell them there has been an accident and find out what to do. This is intended to be for the Fire & Rescue service to obtain additional info not on the TREMcard. e.g. truck carrying substance "a" has just collided with truck carrying substance "b" - how fast should we run?!
Best advice is to keep away from any chemical incident and leave it to the professionals.
Incidently, one of the most "dangerous" substances is milk. If untreated milk enters a water course, it can be a biological disaster. If you have a leaking milk tanker, call Trumpton urgently to contain the spillage.
paolow said:
do they really exist? what the hell would you need 4,000 gallons of the stuff for anyway?
Lots of industrial processes use LN. Where I work we have two 100 cubic meter LN towers. Much fun in damp weather when you get a full on B Movie ground fog effect. One of the towers (about 30ish feet tall) came loose in high winds a few years back, area evacuated PDQ!
My lot are a subsidiary of one of the huge nationals that deals with lox (liquid oxygen). I cart it around to patients’ homes in large thermos-type flasks in a large unmarked van. We are not required to have ADR licences and we are actively discouraged from displaying orange boards, although they are fitted and I personally feel we should have at least signs on the vans to state the contents.
The only thing that states the contents is on the TREMCARD, but does not say what you, the BiB, should do in an emergency.
Here are the facts:
Lox is not flammable, it is an accelerant. It will make things that would not usually burn, ie steel wool, burn. Lox soaks into porous items to the point where you have enrichment, and it is not necessarily a flame that will ignite it.
It is GREASE, OIL, or FAT that causes ignition, due to a chemical reaction with carbohydrates.
So, if you encounter a vehicle with Lox on board, read the Tremcard to ascertain what product it is, whether it is liquid or gas. Ensure there is no oil on the road nearby, particularly leaking from the vehicle itself, likely to make contact with the liquid if it is leaking.
If they are standard gas cylinders containing oxygen, it can be vented off safely, but you do not really want to be breathing it in. Your body takes in 21% of oxygen with every breath, but exceeding this amount can be fatal. Breathing apparatus would be advisable in this scenario.
One point of note, Liquid Oxygen is at minus one hundred and eighty three degrees centigrade, so DO NOT put yourself in a position where it may touch skin. You will get a very nasty freeze burn.
Isolate vehicle by sealing off road to a distance of 500 yards and call Fire Brigade.
The flasks that carry the Lox are not under pressure, and constantly vent off gases, so they can actually withstand being in a fire – you just end up with a mushroom of flame over the unit. Gas cylinders containing oxygen ARE under pressure and are at risk of exploding in a fire.
I hope this is of help.
Dom
>> Edited by Domf9 on Saturday 17th July 03:57
The only thing that states the contents is on the TREMCARD, but does not say what you, the BiB, should do in an emergency.
Here are the facts:
Lox is not flammable, it is an accelerant. It will make things that would not usually burn, ie steel wool, burn. Lox soaks into porous items to the point where you have enrichment, and it is not necessarily a flame that will ignite it.
It is GREASE, OIL, or FAT that causes ignition, due to a chemical reaction with carbohydrates.
So, if you encounter a vehicle with Lox on board, read the Tremcard to ascertain what product it is, whether it is liquid or gas. Ensure there is no oil on the road nearby, particularly leaking from the vehicle itself, likely to make contact with the liquid if it is leaking.
If they are standard gas cylinders containing oxygen, it can be vented off safely, but you do not really want to be breathing it in. Your body takes in 21% of oxygen with every breath, but exceeding this amount can be fatal. Breathing apparatus would be advisable in this scenario.
One point of note, Liquid Oxygen is at minus one hundred and eighty three degrees centigrade, so DO NOT put yourself in a position where it may touch skin. You will get a very nasty freeze burn.
Isolate vehicle by sealing off road to a distance of 500 yards and call Fire Brigade.
The flasks that carry the Lox are not under pressure, and constantly vent off gases, so they can actually withstand being in a fire – you just end up with a mushroom of flame over the unit. Gas cylinders containing oxygen ARE under pressure and are at risk of exploding in a fire.
I hope this is of help.
Dom
>> Edited by Domf9 on Saturday 17th July 03:57
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