Plebgate - An interesting new twist
Discussion
carinaman said:
singlecoil said:
La Liga said:
Responding to CM
You actually read his stuff? The random jumps in the illogic do my head in.Getting on 3 and a 1/2 years for a few spoken words at a gate. What a farce: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35481055
La Liga said:
Getting on 3 and a 1/2 years for a few spoken words at a gate. What a farce: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35481055
you're not wrong...as a side note, how did that lying scumbag get off?
what does it take to prove he lied if tape recordings and video are not enough?
Scuffers said:
La Liga said:
Getting on 3 and a 1/2 years for a few spoken words at a gate. What a farce: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35481055
you're not wrong...as a side note, how did that lying scumbag get off?
what does it take to prove he lied if tape recordings and video are not enough?
RobinOakapple said:
Scuffers said:
La Liga said:
Getting on 3 and a 1/2 years for a few spoken words at a gate. What a farce: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35481055
you're not wrong...as a side note, how did that lying scumbag get off?
what does it take to prove he lied if tape recordings and video are not enough?
Derek Smith said:
It's Scuffers. He probably missed the bit which said: . . . Sgt Hinton's honest, accurate and candid view, relying on his good sense and judgement, which no doubt he's relied upon all these years . . .
do I have to remind you what he said on camera?As a Police Officer you are supposed to be beyond reproach, not some sleazy politically driven spinning shrill for the federation.
Scuffers said:
Derek Smith said:
It's Scuffers. He probably missed the bit which said: . . . Sgt Hinton's honest, accurate and candid view, relying on his good sense and judgement, which no doubt he's relied upon all these years . . .
do I have to remind you what he said on camera?As a Police Officer you are supposed to be beyond reproach, not some sleazy politically driven spinning shrill for the federation.
RobinOakapple said:
Thing is, what he said on camera was true.
no, it wasn't, that's the problemwe only know this because of the recording of the meeting that was made, without that, we would have been none the wiser.
call it what you will, but in my book he disgraced the uniform he wears.
Scuffers said:
RobinOakapple said:
Thing is, what he said on camera was true.
no, it wasn't, that's the problemwe only know this because of the recording of the meeting that was made, without that, we would have been none the wiser.
call it what you will, but in my book he disgraced the uniform he wears.
But the judge in the libel trial said that Mitchell had used the 'pleb' word or something very similar, so unless Mitchell admitted to that during the discussion with the policemen then he didn't give a full account of what happened. So Mitchell lied and the policemen didn't.
Don't take my word for it, take the word of the judge.
RobinOakapple said:
Thing is, what he said on camera was true.
What he said on camera was contradicted by the audio recording of the event.A hearing has found that his conduct in this matter did not fall below the standards required.
Both of those statements are correct & provable. Everyone will form their own conclusions, which I'm sure will vary.
Scuffers said:
singlecoil said:
We could argue that one, but we can't argue is that what he said on camera was supported by the libel trial judge.
and pray tell how has that got any relevance to the discussion we're having right now about his professional conduct case?Scuffers said:
So, please go ahead and explain how the trial has anything yo do with his disciplinary hearing?
In the meeting, Mitchell denied saying 'pleb' but wouldn't say what he did say. (Why they never pressed him on this is very odd)The Judge decided Mitchell did say Pleb. Mitchell therefore didn't give a full and accurate account of what happened.
Elroy Blue said:
In the meeting, Mitchell denied saying 'pleb' but wouldn't say what he did say. (Why they never pressed him on this is very odd)
The Judge decided Mitchell did say Pleb. Mitchell therefore didn't give a full and accurate account of what happened.
Sigh...The Judge decided Mitchell did say Pleb. Mitchell therefore didn't give a full and accurate account of what happened.
And again, what has any of this to do with the disciplinary hearing?
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