Speed awareness - notifying insurance

Speed awareness - notifying insurance

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TwigtheWonderkid

43,498 posts

151 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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whoami said:
liner33 said:
over_the_hill said:
And when they all realise they have a captive market and hike the price - then what. Despite what some on here might have you believe insurance is an effective cartel. If the price goes up too much you can't "do without it" unless you ditch the car completely. It will not be long before they cotton on to the fact that they can make money from this as well as "points" and since the others are doing it they have nothing to lose.
You worry about it IF and WHEN is happens , none of my insurers levy a fee for a SAC if they did I'd move my business to someone that didn't.

Even if it was more expensive?
Exactly!! I couldn't care less if my insurance charge me extra for being bald or left handed. If their price is competitive, I don't give a toss how they arrived at it.



Edited by TwigtheWonderkid on Tuesday 12th March 20:05


Edited by TwigtheWonderkid on Tuesday 12th March 20:05

liner33

10,702 posts

203 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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whoami said:
Even if it was more expensive?
Absolutely , I don't buy my insurance based on price, like many things in life cheapest is rarely the best

TwigtheWonderkid

43,498 posts

151 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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liner33 said:
whoami said:
Even if it was more expensive?
Absolutely , I don't buy my insurance based on price, like many things in life cheapest is rarely the best
OK, what if you had a really good policy, and they'd dealt with a previous claim very well, and then they charged you extra for a SAC, but their premium was still very reasonable.

liner33

10,702 posts

203 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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If, if if.

I shop around every year not just on price t&c's often change and so does my business, there are companies that I would never go with by choice .

TwigtheWonderkid

43,498 posts

151 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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I just don't see why people get so worked up about what their insurance company charges extra for and what it doesn't. The only thing that matters is the final price and the quality of the product. If those 2 are acceptable, how they arrived at the price is of no concern.

liner33

10,702 posts

203 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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You can't really know the quality of he product until you make a claim.

You can however get an idea of how a company does business by choosing based on whether they load for SAC or levy a large admin fee for minor detail changes or for adding loan cars etc .

TwigtheWonderkid

43,498 posts

151 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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liner33 said:
You can't really know the quality of he product until you make a claim.

You can however get an idea of how a company does business by choosing based on whether they load for SAC or levy a large admin fee for minor detail changes or for adding loan cars etc .
What evidence do you have that an insurance company that charges for things you don't think should be charged for (but someone else might) will provide a worse claims service than a company that charges for things you think should be charged for (but someone else might not).

In my experience, people think insurers should charge more for all the factors that don't apply to them. Young drivers think older drivers should pay more and they pay less, city dwellers think they're being unfaily treated, people with convictions think it's unfair they are charged more, people without convictions think they should get a discount. Etc etc.

liner33

10,702 posts

203 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
What evidence do you have that an insurance company that charges for things you don't think should be charged for (but someone else might) will provide a worse claims service than a company that charges for things you think should be charged for (but someone else might not).
I didnt suggest they did!!

In 25 years of driving I've not made a claim, but if I was to be charged £35 to add a loan car to my policy for a day whilst my car was off the road I wouldn't be happy about it.

Consumers need to realise they can vote with their feet and if they are willing to not always go for the cheapest they may end up with a better service, whilst most drivers simply look at the bottom line its all too easy to end up being insured with the Ryanair of companies where significant additional charges are incurred if anything changes or the company feels they can get away with it.





whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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liner33 said:
In 25 years of driving I've not made a claim, but if I was to be charged £35 to add a loan car to my policy for a day whilst my car was off the road I wouldn't be happy about it.
Just means you've paid it upfront then.

Nothing's free.

T16OLE

2,946 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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I just called to accept a quote rather than the rip off renewal and was taken back when he asked if i`d been on a speed awareness course within the last five years.

Annoyingly I have, it raised my premium by £70.

What a pointless exercise that SAC was. I`m sure 3 points don't even raise my premium.

I`ll take the points if there`s a next time.


Dog Star

16,157 posts

169 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Who was that with, T16OLE?

I've not got any points or been on a SAC, however I'd still take the option as it is still, effectively, 3 extra points available, which you never know that you might need.

sugerbear

4,070 posts

159 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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A SAC course seems like a no brainer. In Essex the cost of the course is £97.50 vs 3 points + £100.

Why would anyone want three additional points on their licence when they can avoid them (and save a massive £2.50 in the process).

jagracer

8,248 posts

237 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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sugerbear said:
A SAC course seems like a no brainer. In Essex the cost of the course is £97.50 vs 3 points + £100.

Why would anyone want three additional points on their licence when they can avoid them (and save a massive £2.50 in the process).
Because some people still believe It's revenue raising and like to cut their noses off to spite their faces.

randlemarcus

13,530 posts

232 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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jagracer said:
sugerbear said:
A SAC course seems like a no brainer. In Essex the cost of the course is £97.50 vs 3 points + £100.

Why would anyone want three additional points on their licence when they can avoid them (and save a massive £2.50 in the process).
Because some people still believe It's revenue raising and like to cut their noses off to spite their faces.
Nearly.

Some insurers charge for SAC, some charge for 3 points. If yours charges for both, or neither, then it's a choice between funding central government, and funding a non-official body whose work over the last couple of decades has contributed nothing to overall road safety and has led to lots of comfortable pensions. It's a choice, no?

jagracer

8,248 posts

237 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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randlemarcus said:
It's a choice, no?
It's certainly an opinion, yes?

randlemarcus

13,530 posts

232 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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jagracer said:
It's certainly an opinion, yes?
Completely agree, that is indeed my opinion. beer

T16OLE

2,946 posts

192 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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Dog Star said:
Who was that with, T16OLE?

I've not got any points or been on a SAC, however I'd still take the option as it is still, effectively, 3 extra points available, which you never know that you might need.
Admiral

T16OLE

2,946 posts

192 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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jagracer said:
It's certainly an opinion, yes?
At the time, it was £100+ for thr SAC or 3 points and a £60 fine.

I did the SAC believing a) it wouldn't affect my insurance b) no points are probably a better option.

That said the course was 4-hours and absolutely tortuous.

Though 0-points makes car hire and being insured on company vehicles etc easier if your young.

T16OLE

2,946 posts

192 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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jagracer said:
It's certainly an opinion, yes?
At the time, it was £100+ for thr SAC or 3 points and a £60 fine.

I did the SAC believing a) it wouldn't affect my insurance b) no points are probably a better option.

That said the course was 4-hours and absolutely tortuous.

Though 0-points makes car hire and being insured on company vehicles etc easier if your young.

crofty1984

15,892 posts

205 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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I'm about to go on a course. My GF just got her premium loaded because she did one last year. Looks like I've just wasted the extra £30 quid.