New emergancy number 112

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medicineman

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1,726 posts

238 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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Hi folks. Currently doing my NHS rapid response training and was reminded by our resus officer that if we are on mobiles we should be calling 112 for emergencies. That way the system can pin point our mobiles. Dialling 999 can get you through to a call centre anywhere is GB depending on how the mobile network routes your call.

So the number to remember and put in your phones is 112.

miniandy

1,512 posts

238 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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cool.

i thought that was only for when you're roaming but if it pinpoints you then good one!

Mr E

21,631 posts

260 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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Errr.

That's worked for *years*.

It's one of the only numbers a mobile phone will call when barred, with no sim card, no credit on a rival network and the keypad locked.

Basically, all mobiles will always call 112 if they have *any* signal at all. And the network will drop another call to let it on.

Try 112 with the keypad locked. Just don't push call......

999 might also work.

xxxxxxrich

188 posts

246 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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I've been a Telecoms engineer for over 10 years and it's older than that.
The reason we have this number is Europe. It's one of the emergency numbers there and as a European member we have to use it too or something?

112 and 999 calls get routed the same way to the same emergencey center.

ledfoot

777 posts

253 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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999 and 112 calls are the same when dialled from mobiles.

The calls are always routed to the nearest call centre. All the transmitters in the same area have a routing zone number allocated, so all calls in that zone go to the assigned call centre.

If you are on the edge of a routing area, then of course you could be connected to a call centre some distance away.

112 has been around for ages...nothing new about it

medicineman

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1,726 posts

238 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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I know its been around for ages, but when told about it only 2 people in a room of 20 knew, so I thought I'd pass it on.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

239 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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medicineman said:
I know its been around for ages, but when told about it only 2 people in a room of 20 knew, so I thought I'd pass it on.


I personally think it's very relevant and thank you for doing so...

There may be those unaware and the phone they end up using in an emergency doesn't have a 9 button working.

thanks mate

Street

Pigeon

18,535 posts

247 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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medicineman said:
Hi folks. Currently doing my NHS rapid response training and was reminded by our resus officer that if we are on mobiles we should be calling 112 for emergencies. That way the system can pin point our mobiles. Dialling 999 can get you through to a call centre anywhere is GB depending on how the mobile network routes your call.

So the number to remember and put in your phones is 112.

Unfortunately the chap was talking through his arse. As xxxxxxrich says there is no difference between 112 and 999 for a mobile.

We use 999 instead of 112 on landlines because it is too easy for a bad connection in the wiring, or an engineer connecting the wiring up, to create a sequence of pulses which is equivalent to dialling 112. The Europeans, being silly foreign people, don't seem to mind having to deal with automatically-generated fake emergency calls, so they use 112. Mobiles accept both codes because it avoids a regional difference in the software, and since they don't use pulse dialling the fake calls problem doesn't arise.

medicineman

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238 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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The reason I was given was that the 999 system is not fully digital yet. Therefore some calls may not be able to be accurately placed. Please note I was talking about mobiles NOT landlines.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

247 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Sure, I was explaining how we came to end up with both numbers working on mobiles. But 999 and 112 are handled the same way. The phone system recognises them both as emergency calls and treats them the same, like you can use www.pistonheads.com or www.pistonheads.co.uk and both of them get you to this site. Your training chap was wrong I'm afraid.

cen

593 posts

236 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Nice one Daffydd

Not all are aware of the 112 access. There is no doubt as to the reason why you posted this thread. Unfortuneatly, there are those with pig headed brains who cannot see the light of day.

Mr E

21,631 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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medicineman said:
The reason I was given was that the 999 system is not fully digital yet. Therefore some calls may not be able to be accurately placed. Please note I was talking about mobiles NOT landlines.


Errr. As a previous poster has already said, the MSC (Mobile Switching Center) will handle 112 and 999 (and 911 in NAR) calls in *exactly* the same way.

Mr E

21,631 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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cen said:
Unfortuneatly, there are those with pig headed brains who cannot see the light of day.


Eh?

No, it's a good idea to make people aware of it. I would pretty much always dial 112 as that should work anywhere in Europe (I'm not sure about the US). But, I read the original post as "new emergancy phone number available" and felt the need to point out that it's not new.

My apologies to the author if that wasn't the intended meaning.

GreigM

6,728 posts

250 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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I knew this for a long time, and believe that 112 is the internationally recognised number to dial for help - in theory it should work anywhere in the world.

mcflurry

9,099 posts

254 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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checked this on our mobiles at home (Mrs Mcflurry didn't know about 112 - I did as lived in Germany)

Mine (Nokia 6230) worked with either 999 or 112, hers (Nokia 7250) worked with 112 only.

Didn't press the green button though

medicineman

Original Poster:

1,726 posts

238 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Sorry put new in to catch peoples attention.

Davel

8,982 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Well I for one was not aware of 112

phillwalden

39 posts

249 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Just to add you will get charged for a 999 call from a mobile but you will not if you dial 112

loaf

850 posts

262 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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loaf

850 posts

262 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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phillwalden said:
Just to add you will get charged for a 999 call from a mobile but you will not if you dial 112


Erm...no. 999/112 calls are free from any phone anywhere.