How to prevent scum tenants from trashing the place
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of course tenants on housing benefits historically made landlords rich.
get the poor in: charge what you fancy, HB pick it up.
there are the benefit caps in place now: £500 a week max per family....... from which everything must be paid.
fine in the north, not in the south.
anybody been watching "can't pay, we'll take it way ?" some real tales of woe.
personally I would never touch a person on benefit......... imagine that now you can't get yr HB paid direct because the govt think claimants need financial independance to manage their own money......... you rely on them paying you. yeah right !
however back to original post...... keep a log of phone calls, actions, try to photo damage etc.
respond sucinctly to emails, letters: don't spend hrs replying.
get the poor in: charge what you fancy, HB pick it up.
there are the benefit caps in place now: £500 a week max per family....... from which everything must be paid.
fine in the north, not in the south.
anybody been watching "can't pay, we'll take it way ?" some real tales of woe.
personally I would never touch a person on benefit......... imagine that now you can't get yr HB paid direct because the govt think claimants need financial independance to manage their own money......... you rely on them paying you. yeah right !
however back to original post...... keep a log of phone calls, actions, try to photo damage etc.
respond sucinctly to emails, letters: don't spend hrs replying.
austinsmirk said:
of course tenants on housing benefits historically made landlords rich.
get the poor in: charge what you fancy, HB pick it up.
there are the benefit caps in place now: £500 a week max per family....... from which everything must be paid.
fine in the north, not in the south.
anybody been watching "can't pay, we'll take it way ?" some real tales of woe.
personally I would never touch a person on benefit......... imagine that now you can't get yr HB paid direct because the govt think claimants need financial independance to manage their own money......... you rely on them paying you. yeah right !
however back to original post...... keep a log of phone calls, actions, try to photo damage etc.
respond sucinctly to emails, letters: don't spend hrs replying.
Its 6 or and half a dozen of another.get the poor in: charge what you fancy, HB pick it up.
there are the benefit caps in place now: £500 a week max per family....... from which everything must be paid.
fine in the north, not in the south.
anybody been watching "can't pay, we'll take it way ?" some real tales of woe.
personally I would never touch a person on benefit......... imagine that now you can't get yr HB paid direct because the govt think claimants need financial independance to manage their own money......... you rely on them paying you. yeah right !
however back to original post...... keep a log of phone calls, actions, try to photo damage etc.
respond sucinctly to emails, letters: don't spend hrs replying.
Why should we pay £3000 a month for a family of iraq immigrants to live in a kesington town house. I cant afford to live there!
Were I live local councilw ith give you about £580 a month for a 3 bed house and cost £650-850 to rent a 3 bed privatley.
It does however make parts of the country unexcessible to the poorer peeps.
Housing benefit can go up and down like a yoyo as well and hb as it used to be ceased last year. Central government no longer fund councils unlimited amounts to house people they have all been given a pot of money to manage themselves to dish out within guidlines so alot of people are feeling the pinch.
As a tenant I think the law is skewed in my favour.
And that is as it should be. There are just as many tales of bad landlords as there are of bad tenants.
I have rented all over the world and The UK was probably the worst place to rent I have been in. The rents are higher, and the general standard of care that landlords give is ,in my experience, quite low. Getting anything more than a 6 month AST is almost impossible. It may have been a couple of exceptions but when I rented in the States, if something was wrong with the apartment it was fixed immediately and without question, even on holidays and sundays. My landlord went to great lengths to ensure that I felt that the apartment was my home.
There is much less of that in France ,but most places are rented with very long leases, 3 years is the norm, and mine is longer. When you rent a place for that long you tend to look after it much better. And perhaps the AST is part of the problem, if you have no long term security the place is just not important to you.
And that is as it should be. There are just as many tales of bad landlords as there are of bad tenants.
I have rented all over the world and The UK was probably the worst place to rent I have been in. The rents are higher, and the general standard of care that landlords give is ,in my experience, quite low. Getting anything more than a 6 month AST is almost impossible. It may have been a couple of exceptions but when I rented in the States, if something was wrong with the apartment it was fixed immediately and without question, even on holidays and sundays. My landlord went to great lengths to ensure that I felt that the apartment was my home.
There is much less of that in France ,but most places are rented with very long leases, 3 years is the norm, and mine is longer. When you rent a place for that long you tend to look after it much better. And perhaps the AST is part of the problem, if you have no long term security the place is just not important to you.
Rovinghawk said:
oyster said:
If you're on top of it then you can get them out in 3 or so months.
Once they've moved in through the front door, if they don't pay a single penny in rent it's 6 months before I could even start proceedings, so you're wrong.During this time, if I don't fix the dripping tap or similar then it's harassment of tenant & I can have a nice trip to a police station to defend myself.
oyster said:
Unless you are completely unlucky, you'll get such a tenant perhaps once every 5-10 years
The agency got me 3 in a row before I kicked them into touch, so you are wrong.oyster said:
so 3 months of voids against the rest of the income is just a cost of running a business.
Apart from disputing your figures, surely good business is getting rid of unnecessary costs? Also, if you presume a 7% yield and zero actual damage, 3 months divided by 0.07 is 43 months to get back to square one. You might have envy issues against the alleged rich b
ds who dare to run a business, but do you not see how much harm that is to someone who might just be trying to provide for their old age?oyster said:
Do you see it as a business? If so, why can't you run it within the confines of the law?
I do, and I'm careful to stay within the confines of the law. If a tenant strays outside those confines then I might be tempted to do the same.btw- I have the kind of happy tenants that put their friends in touch when I'm looking for new tenants, so hardly the monster landlord you seem to portray us as.
Edited by Rovinghawk on Tuesday 11th March 16:38
I just think that regardless of whether tenants follow the law, I'm going to follow it to the letter.
1. Because it's morally right.
2. Because it means I'm not risking my livelihood/freedom/family.
santona1937 said:
Getting anything more than a 6 month AST is almost impossible.
Many tenants don't want to be tied in for long leases- why should the LL be locked in for eg 3 years when the tenants want to be able to get out with only a month's notice?If they want to pay a forfeitable bond that's a different matter, but very few would be willing to do so.
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