"I NEVER get out of the way for Police cars..."

"I NEVER get out of the way for Police cars..."

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autismuk

1,529 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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gone said:

autismuk said:



Because it's not a crime ?




But it is!
It is the job of a Police officer to address this.

Definition learnt in 1st week of training.

Police Officer = Citizen, locally appointed but having authority under the Crown for the protection of life and property, the prevntion and detection of crime and the prosecution of offenders against the peace!

autismuk said:

Or because it's a "manipulated" crime of the sort becoming so popular amongst the Police farce, where no real crime is committed at all, you are breaking an absurdly low speed limit ?


I expect this is the same sentiment of the professional burglar/Drug Dealer/Kiddy Fiddler too

>> Edited by gone on Thursday 30th December 12:49


Fine, gone, why does this apparently not apply to Policemen ?

Except those who are black (or Iranian) of course, when you spend £7m looking into their dry cleaning bills.


tvrgit

8,472 posts

253 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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No Discretion said:
But i know roads that have streetlamps and 30mph zones...that dont have junctions on them...no bends etc etc...yet 30mph must be adhered to..

Absolutely correct! That's exactly the point! So if you do 30, the camera says you're safe.

Next day there's a bunch of kids cycling along the pavement. Mr Numpty in his "speed limit is b-all and end-all of safety" stupor goes past at 30. It's not AS safe though, is it? The camera says you're still safe. Binary decision - speed within limit therefore safe. Not the right decision though.

No Discretion then said:
On other roads....there are nationals that now have new houses on them and the driveways emerge onto a 60mph zone.

Again, absolutely correct! That's exactly the point! NSL is 60mph through lots of villages - has been for years. But because, now that drivers are nannied into obeying the speed limit and not making decisions for themselves, they blatter through regardless of whether the road is clear, or there are people or dogs walking, or cars emerging from driveways - they are within the speed limit so it must be safe, right?

Then as a further development of the "speed kills" mantra, the residents see speed as a perceived problem so they ask for a lower limit "for safety reasons". And so it comes to pass that a 30 mph speed limit is promoted to reduce the lowest common denominator yet again.

In all likelihood, those same residents will be blattering through the next village at 60 mph, totally oblivious to the irony and hypocrisy in their successful speed limit campaign.

So the next village asks for a speed limit... and so it goes on...

and all because people won't adjust their speed (up or down) to prevailing conditions.

It comes down to enforcement, education and engineering, and speed cameras are (or should be) only a tiny fraction of the first of those... but the others don't make a profit so the response is easy to anticipate...

No Discretion

655 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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autismuk said:


Good question. I would suggest civil disobedience on a massive scale, rather like the Poll tax and Fuel tax events.


like that works...

They'll just rename speed cameras

..."Community Cameras"