Joining the Police
Discussion
LosingGrip said:
So yesterday I was meant to find out...no news still. Phoned them up at 1630 and the person dealing with it was off :rollseyes:. Was told I'd find out today...still haven't. Still two hours to go though.
They will send you an email at 4.59pm then log off immediately and go home. Just so you cannot have any queries answered until monday. Standard practice from police HR types.
LosingGrip said:
So yesterday I was meant to find out...no news still. Phoned them up at 1630 and the person dealing with it was off :rollseyes:. Was told I'd find out today...still haven't. Still two hours to go though.
I worked in a high HR globally. I worked with many nationalities who were bright, had high levels of customer ethos etc. Etc.Then I encountered the Police HR/recruitment. Think of those who wouldn't even make a recruitment consultant (they hire these as outsourced experts to assist).
It became really really frustrating for me.
I was once told 'your not the first person to call and ask today we are snowed under with these calls'. I replied 'ehy not set up a text or email update'. Just a basic thing. Hey presto. That was just a simple thing. Silence silence then 'can you start asap'?
They weren't rude on the phone, far from it. It's your first glimpse into the Cops. You'll see people on 40k doing 15k jobs. That astounded me. I've still got my private sector mindset.
Sa Calobra said:
LosingGrip said:
So yesterday I was meant to find out...no news still. Phoned them up at 1630 and the person dealing with it was off :rollseyes:. Was told I'd find out today...still haven't. Still two hours to go though.
I worked in a high HR globally. I worked with many nationalities who were bright, had high levels of customer ethos etc. Etc.Then I encountered the Police HR/recruitment. Think of those who wouldn't even make a recruitment consultant (they hire these as outsourced experts to assist).
It became really really frustrating for me.
I was once told 'your not the first person to call and ask today we are snowed under with these calls'. I replied 'ehy not set up a text or email update'. Just a basic thing. Hey presto. That was just a simple thing. Silence silence then 'can you start asap'?
They weren't rude on the phone, far from it. It's your first glimpse into the Cops. You'll see people on 40k doing 15k jobs. That astounded me. I've still got my private sector mindset.
Sa Calobra said:
It's not hard is it? A few calls made by the man. Sure he/she isn't that busy
It was meant to reduce speculation and to make sure that all of the candidates (about 60) knew their results at the same time. They did let us know in advance what they were doing though so at least it was expected.I can see arguments both ways having previously been the victim of a total shambles when they didn't contact me to inform me I had failed. They had been ringing my old mobile number from about 10 years previous, instead of the contact i actually put on the application form.
Loyly said:
My friend had a written exercise in dealing with boy racers in the Westshire Centre car park and scenarios based on conflict management and dispute resolution. The usual scenario fodder; dispute over smoking breaks, reports of a staff member heard using racist language and a complaint from a parent of an autistic boy who had been told off for playing in a fountain. That was ten years ago, glad to see the Westshire Centre is still a management nightmare.
My friend was advised before going to the assessment centre on how the marking structure works. There were books available on it and in reality, the exercises, particularly the scenario exercises, were pretty easy to ace if you knew the right things to say and treat the engagement like following a flow chart.
I remember that I scored 25% for "dealing with the public" on the scenario section of westshire.My friend was advised before going to the assessment centre on how the marking structure works. There were books available on it and in reality, the exercises, particularly the scenario exercises, were pretty easy to ace if you knew the right things to say and treat the engagement like following a flow chart.
I pulled it back on the final interview that was attached/on the same day and my exam scores but I found the test telling me I was basically substandard on dealing with the public funny. After all that's the point of the job and I've descalated so many bad situations both before and after peacefully along with people skills.
What makes me shudder is good people who would make good people-person cops might not get a job yet alot of recruits I met had little people skills, personality or any interests outside the job. They must have done their homework on how to beat the tests. I didn't.
Fast forward and the same people will climb the rank structure.
It makes me shudder
ED209 said:
It was meant to reduce speculation and to make sure that all of the candidates (about 60) knew their results at the same time. They did let us know in advance what they were doing though so at least it was expected.
I can see arguments both ways having previously been the victim of a total shambles when they didn't contact me to inform me I had failed. They had been ringing my old mobile number from about 10 years previous, instead of the contact i actually put on the application form.
Hasn't worked this time as someone else on the same assessment day found out last Tuesday. Admittedly a different force and I was the only one for there. I can see arguments both ways having previously been the victim of a total shambles when they didn't contact me to inform me I had failed. They had been ringing my old mobile number from about 10 years previous, instead of the contact i actually put on the application form.
Edited by LosingGrip on Sunday 27th January 12:12
Thanks all!
Greendubber said:
Wehey!
Well done!
What's next?
Another interview. From what I've heard this is a lot more relaxed and more importantly its held in force, so no driving for hours! They aren't sure when this will be. This assessment centre was from when I applied last year. I got to do another one so soon as I appealed the outcome last time without having to apply again. They haven't recruited this year yet. So could be some when next year.Well done!
What's next?
LosingGrip said:
Update...
I passed!
Well done Dude.I passed!
I believe you're a Special Constable currently ?
If I were you I'd speak to as many Regular Student Officers as you can and try to get a feel for the kind of questions you may be asked at your final interview.
Best of luck and well done (again).
What’s the appeal of police now the pension and age has been reduced?
I know some thrive on the authority but you have to bust a nut for 23k a year starting. Your a probie for two years and ain’t worth squat.
Direct entry with a degree to a rank is appealing I suppose.
I always wanted to a copper and when I joined I quickly realised that it’s a hard, badly paid and worst of all my relationship went up in smoke soon as I started working silly anti social hours.
There don’t seem many decent coppers left, just the power hungry idiots or over qualified academics who really are in the wrong job.
I know some thrive on the authority but you have to bust a nut for 23k a year starting. Your a probie for two years and ain’t worth squat.
Direct entry with a degree to a rank is appealing I suppose.
I always wanted to a copper and when I joined I quickly realised that it’s a hard, badly paid and worst of all my relationship went up in smoke soon as I started working silly anti social hours.
There don’t seem many decent coppers left, just the power hungry idiots or over qualified academics who really are in the wrong job.
I saw this the other day, not sure what my grizzled, old, whiskey in the bottom drawer, 30 fags a day, snout on the blower, DCI would have made of it all... 
Police detective entry system targets graduates
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44433881
Police detective entry system targets graduates
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44433881
andy_s said:
I saw this the other day, not sure what my grizzled, old, whiskey in the bottom drawer, 30 fags a day, snout on the blower, DCI would have made of it all...
Police detective entry system targets graduates
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44433881
It's ridiculous, 12 weeks? Police detective entry system targets graduates
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44433881
Priceless.
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