Joining the Police

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Sa Calobra

37,126 posts

211 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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Tell him to keep trying.

It's the sttest best horrible job in the world. I was interviewing someone last week and he kicked off in the interview room.

We ended up through the hallway and into another interview room.

All the custody staff and station appeared.

I used to interview alot in my old job. I'd never have dreamt in a million years that'd happen then.

Terzo123

4,312 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
Tell him to keep trying.

It's the sttest best horrible job in the world. I was interviewing someone last week and he kicked off in the interview room.

We ended up through the hallway and into another interview room.

All the custody staff and station appeared.

I used to interview alot in my old job. I'd never have dreamt in a million years that'd happen then.
Ha Ha, I take it you were interviewing a suspect and not a potential new recruit. smile

Sa Calobra

37,126 posts

211 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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After I clocked his Solicitor looking scared I said to him that I was terminating the interview based on his behaviour..then he kicked off!

XCP

16,914 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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In the days when smoking was permitted during the interview, a detective managed to set fire to the waste paper bin contents. He tried to stamp it out. He then got his foot stuck in the bin and nearly set fire to his nice suit trousers.

His colleague maintained a commentary on the sound effects 'for the benefit of the tape'.

Sa Calobra

37,126 posts

211 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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That sounds like proper life on Mars stuff!

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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Truth is stranger than fiction.

Jay22

71 posts

78 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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Wish said:
Well my son failed to get in this time.
I’m sure his age is against him, however he didn’t take it too bad it seems to make him more focused to apply again once he’s able too.
U applied for the first time when I was 18 and didnt get it either. It was my dream job as a kid growing up. The guy I was sitting beside waiting for the interview would have been over 40 and realised that I was pretty young and outside of school didnt have too much other experience.

I joined as a Special (I know many police dont like them and the public too if they know you are a Special) and really enjoyed that for a few years and then applied again at 20 but didnt get it again and was much more disappointed then. That sort of annoyed me and I needed to get a "real" job and decided to join the Prison Service but still hoping to be a Police Officer after doing that for a few years.

That was a bad move for me as I didnt like the job and didnt think it really suited me. I ended up having to resign as I caught and arrested for drink driving and criminal damage while still on probation.

I know that probably means that I will never get to do my dream job but we all do stupid things when we are young. So just say to him not to do anything stupid like I did while waiting for it to happen.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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Jay22 said:
I ended up having to resign as I caught and arrested for drink driving and criminal damage while still on probation.

we all do stupid things when we are young.
Drink driving and criminal damage while on probation?

I never did that.

Sa Calobra

37,126 posts

211 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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Well you get regulars doing all sorts sometimes worse. We've got one at the moment Abit worse.

Loyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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Jay22 said:
I joined as a Special (I know many police dont like them and the public too if they know you are a Special)
I don't think that is really true these days, particularly since specials are well integrated into the general force population. The days of special 'sergeants' and 'inspectors' turning up at jobs and being told to fk off by a PC are long gone. Even the most curmudgeonly old sweats would probably begrudgingly accept specials on their shift, if only to act as another uniform on double crewed duties.

One surefire way to be disliked as a special is acting like a blue light tourist, or creating trouble and then buggering off and leaving someone who knows what they're doing to sort it out. Overall, I think specials are nuts to do it for nothing but they have their reasons and sometimes even just having one on duty makes a massive difference to manpower and capability.

Regarding forces looking to hire older people with 'life experience', that seems a nonsense to me now, as it ever has. At one point, my local force had ditched the final interview and everything was based on assessment, the logic being that final interviews were subjective and could be prejudicial. I doubt they ever were but the asssessment based system worked and cut another layer of bureaucracy of out of a long joining process. The added benefit being, anyone could sign up and be accepted on their qualities as a potential police officer rather than as a middle manager in some faceless office or whatever.

Over the past couple of years, various forces around the UK have been trying to find applicants with business skills rather than policing skills because they're so desperate to find someone with a plan to rescue them from financial ruin. From what I have seen, this has been largely unsuccessful. There is no magic bullet to fixing these problems and trying to hire people with business acumen to police the streets has not really worked out.




Sa Calobra

37,126 posts

211 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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As a special you have to prove literally your bravery. As soon as you do this you are treated literally special. You are called by your first name and people want to work with you. They still call you mad.

I've known many many specials who like to wear the uniform and turn out for community events.. but imagine being an outsider walking into a parade room and grumpy types a s asking to come out on response.

Takes guts to go out repeatidly on response with regulars.

Any regular who slags off a special would get me speaking to them. However at my work I've never heard it. The only critism is 'they arrest too many people and find too much stuff on people. That stems from specials not doing the filework though.

defblade

7,434 posts

213 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
As a special you have to prove literally your bravery.
How would you do that?!


I crashed out of round 2 of Direct Entry Inspector (I was a little upset, until I looked at the scores more closely - I evidenced that I am working at Inspector level just fine, but they are really looking for people already working at a strategic level above that. There simply isn't the chance for me to do that in my current job, so I'm never going to be able to evidence it - and that's just the way it is) - so as my local force is recruiting Specials, I'm about to apply for that.

It may seem strange to jump from Inspector to Special, but simply, joining the Police was my first choice of job since a young age. Only recently they relaxed the vision requirements so there was any hope at all; to do it as a full time job I would need to go in at Inspector level just to keep paying my mortgage etc. But my daughter is older now, and life is in a place where I can volunteer for more (I've already been a Scout Leader for 20-odd years) so I can easily consider the Specials.



Any top tips?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Basically demonstrating you'll get involved in the physical side of policing when appropriate. Your colleagues need to know you'll have their backs.


Sa Calobra

37,126 posts

211 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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I'm in two minds about direct entry Inspectors. I've seen one who made me question the job. Another who whenever I see him he's slouched in a chair. I've called neither Sir or ma'am.

Loyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
I've called neither Sir or ma'am.
That sort of address is earned. I doubt they will be hearing much of that since the formal address is reserved for the real inspectors.

wjb

5,100 posts

131 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Loyly said:
Sa Calobra said:
I've called neither Sir or ma'am.
That sort of address is earned. I doubt they will be hearing much of that since the formal address is reserved for the real inspectors.
So what would you call a direct entry inspector then? What about a direct entry superintendent?

What you think personally about how they attained their rank is irrelevant, you still have to address them accordingly, surely?

defblade

7,434 posts

213 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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La Liga said:
Basically demonstrating you'll get involved in the physical side of policing when appropriate. Your colleagues need to know you'll have their backs.
That won't be a problem... my better half already complains I always run towards trouble wink

Sa Calobra

37,126 posts

211 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Each division in your area will have great and bad spots. I personally consider working a large night time economy bad. Great if you like trying to herd cars but annoyingly frustrating.

A mixed area is best. Good neighbourhoods, bad and mixed geography. You get to experience everything. I live my division for this reason.

Joining the specials before the regs made me realise my strengths and weaknesses that I never knew. You'll have done great stories. I say go for it.

You'll have experiences that you can't tell your friends as it'll be too surreal for them.

LosingGrip

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7,818 posts

159 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Well I've changed my mind a few times this year...

Just sent my application to the MET. Because I've already passed an assessment centre within the last two years (strange that only keep it for a year) I should be able to go straight to day two which is a medical/fitness test.

Should hear later this week (well email says 'within a week or so').

Also got a email from last week saying they are looking to hold final interviews towards the end of January (I emailed them in September for an update...). See what the MET say and go from there smile

Edited by LosingGrip on Sunday 27th January 12:06

megaphone

10,724 posts

251 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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LosingGrip said:
Well I've changed my mind a few times this year...

Just sent my application to the MET. Because I've already passed an assessment centre within the last two years (strange that Dorset only keep it for a year) I should be able to go straight to day two which is a medical/fitness test.

Should hear later this week (well email says 'within a week or so').

Also got a email from Dorset last week saying they are looking to hold final interviews towards the end of January (I emailed them in September for an update...). See what the MET say and go from there smile
I was under the impression you couldn't apply for more than one force at a time?