9 Points on license & now caught by speed camera, what ban?
Discussion
flemke said:
LoonR1 said:
Spotting marked police cars is luck?
Normally no, but unmarked Trafpol cars, speed traps operating in darkness, and the (minority of) fixed cameras that were intentionally placed to be difficult to spot are a different story.
gadgetmac said:
LoonR1 said:
Not sure why you seem to head off in a different direction with my posts.
Hmmmm. 
Driver101 said:
I find that statement a bit confusing. I'd bet that almost everyone can recite every speeding conviction they have had.
If you ended up in court over the matter I'd expect that to be even fresher in your mind. 6 points for 90mph does seem at the higher end.
People are jumping to conclusions as things aren't adding up.
Best of luck with the case though. It does appear a ban will likely and justifiably be handed out .
Funnily enough I was done a couple of months ago. First speeding ticket in my 35 years of driving cars, motorbikes, vans, trucks and tractors. Yet I have already forgotten the exact speed. It was either 86 or 89.If you ended up in court over the matter I'd expect that to be even fresher in your mind. 6 points for 90mph does seem at the higher end.
People are jumping to conclusions as things aren't adding up.
Best of luck with the case though. It does appear a ban will likely and justifiably be handed out .
I got sent on a Speed Awareness course which I expected to find pretty condescending but instead it was very informative and I have been driving differently since. All of us on that course agreed that it had been a pretty useful 4 hours.
I think they should make every driver sit the course every say 5 years.
k off and take the bus! LoonR1 said:
flemke said:
LoonR1 said:
Spotting marked police cars is luck?
Normally no, but unmarked Trafpol cars, speed traps operating in darkness, and the (minority of) fixed cameras that were intentionally placed to be difficult to spot are a different story.What he said (emphasis by me) was,
LocoCoco said:
LoonR1 said:
flemke said:
Or you drive fewer miles than some other people do or you drive different roads or just possibly you have been lucky so far.
About 20,000 a year on motorways, A roads and other boring things in the car and c3000 on a bike at fairly quick speeds in the North around some heavily policed roads. Luck? Possibly, or maybe the more I practice, the luckier I get.
I believe my licence is clean purely down to luck and my ability to notice marked police cars.
Points on your licence doesn't always correlate with driving ability, it's really easy to stick to the rules of the road and you can still get points when a copper makes a mistake.
There's probably thousands of drivers with points on their licences whom you'd be safer sharing the roads with than me with my clean one.
The "luck" in LocoCoco's post was not "being lucky enough to spot marked police cars". At least that is not what he wrote.
What he wrote differentiated between "luck", which could be down to anything - not being noticed by unmarked Trafpol, being on roads that don't see a lot of enforcement, having been held up in traffic when he was going past a speed trap that he had not noticed, it could be anything - on the one hand, and on the other hand his ability to spot marked police cars.
He did not say that he had been lucky to notice marked police cars. To the contrary, he said that he had "an ability to notice marked police cars".
LoonR1 said:
gadgetmac said:
LoonR1 said:
Not sure why you seem to head off in a different direction with my posts.
Hmmmm. 
To bring this thread full circle I have an update.
I have now received an offer of a £100 fine and 3 points which lasts for 28 days.
I didn't get caught by the fixed camera I got snapped by a "manned unit" some 200 yards further down the road.
The Speed Limits on the Dual Carriageway section I was on go like this:
NSL --> 50 --> NSL
I was entirely legal for the camera at the start of the 50 section but apparently accelerated too soon once out of the fixed cameras range in anticipation of the NSL ahead. Sadly for me the police had set-up a trap to catch people doing this. Bingo.
I suppose when they receive and endorse my licence they will realise I am already on 9 points and write telling me I am banned, likely for 6 months yes? I won't be given the chance to apologise and throw myself onto the courts mercy in the hope of a reduced ban to say 3 months?
Again, I'm not glorifying this, just asking the question and would be grateful for sensible replies.
I have now received an offer of a £100 fine and 3 points which lasts for 28 days.
I didn't get caught by the fixed camera I got snapped by a "manned unit" some 200 yards further down the road.
The Speed Limits on the Dual Carriageway section I was on go like this:
NSL --> 50 --> NSL
I was entirely legal for the camera at the start of the 50 section but apparently accelerated too soon once out of the fixed cameras range in anticipation of the NSL ahead. Sadly for me the police had set-up a trap to catch people doing this. Bingo.
I suppose when they receive and endorse my licence they will realise I am already on 9 points and write telling me I am banned, likely for 6 months yes? I won't be given the chance to apologise and throw myself onto the courts mercy in the hope of a reduced ban to say 3 months?
Again, I'm not glorifying this, just asking the question and would be grateful for sensible replies.
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