3 points - £100 - Harsh Acceleration
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From looking at Google, that code relates to 'Careless and Inconsiderate driving'
From CPS :
"This offence is appropriate when the driving amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness in addition to some other inconvenience to road users. The following examples are typical of actions likely to be regarded as inconsiderate driving:"
I would say harsh acceleration demonstrates both impatience and aggression especially on the public road.
Feel free to contest the ticket if you like but I don't think it would go very far. The 2 officers would simply say in court what happened and how it was inappropriate and aggressive in the circumstances.
From CPS :
"This offence is appropriate when the driving amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness in addition to some other inconvenience to road users. The following examples are typical of actions likely to be regarded as inconsiderate driving:"
I would say harsh acceleration demonstrates both impatience and aggression especially on the public road.
Feel free to contest the ticket if you like but I don't think it would go very far. The 2 officers would simply say in court what happened and how it was inappropriate and aggressive in the circumstances.
The "in the circumstances" part is essential. If your friend just ripped up from 30 to 60 at an NSL sign with nobody in front of him, that could not possibly be an offence.
If we come to a time when using the loud pedal is an offence, I will hang up my driving gloves (although I don't actually have any, so would need to borrow some).
If we come to a time when using the loud pedal is an offence, I will hang up my driving gloves (although I don't actually have any, so would need to borrow some).
AGK said:
This is the ticket.
Quick google finds 300/002 referenced as Careless Driving, which doesn't seem inappropriate.Usual FPN rules apply. "Your friend" can admit his guilt and pay the FP, or he can refuse it and go to court and argue the case in front of a magistrate.
Go on, be honest. What was "he" doing...?
ORD said:
The "in the circumstances" part is essential. If your friend just ripped up from 30 to 60 at an NSL sign with nobody in front of him, that could not possibly be an offence.
If we come to a time when using the loud pedal is an offence, I will hang up my driving gloves (although I don't actually have any, so would need to borrow some).
Picked friend up from town. Evo 6 RS so not exactly quiet. Road in question has a large speed bump in the middle...If we come to a time when using the loud pedal is an offence, I will hang up my driving gloves (although I don't actually have any, so would need to borrow some).
HantsRat said:
I've issued a few of these. It's usually issued to those who are at a red light, then floor it while wheel spinning when the light goes green.
I very much doubt this was issued just for going up to 60 from a 30.
Assuming no danger results (i.e. no risk of losing control), why on Earth would you get involved just because someone pulls off sharply? I very much doubt this was issued just for going up to 60 from a 30.
I would certainly not accept a ticket just for moving off quickly.
I assume it is the wheelspin that results in the ticket. But what if the car has sophisticated ESC systems and there is no risk of losing control?
TooMany2cvs said:
Quick google finds 300/002 referenced as Careless Driving, which doesn't seem inappropriate.
Usual FPN rules apply. "Your friend" can admit his guilt and pay the FP, or he can refuse it and go to court and argue the case in front of a magistrate.
Go on, be honest. What was "he" doing...?
It's not me. I was pulled for the same ste approx 3 hours earlier but no ticket was issued.Usual FPN rules apply. "Your friend" can admit his guilt and pay the FP, or he can refuse it and go to court and argue the case in front of a magistrate.
Go on, be honest. What was "he" doing...?
ORD said:
I would certainly not accept a ticket just for moving off quickly.
I assume it is the wheelspin that results in the ticket. But what if the car has sophisticated ESC systems and there is no risk of losing control?
The noise created at 2am in the morning would have been inconsiderate, not just a wheel spin factor. I assume it is the wheelspin that results in the ticket. But what if the car has sophisticated ESC systems and there is no risk of losing control?
ORD said:
Assuming no danger results (i.e. no risk of losing control), why on Earth would you get involved just because someone pulls off sharply?
I would certainly not accept a ticket just for moving off quickly.
I assume it is the wheelspin that results in the ticket. But what if the car has sophisticated ESC systems and there is no risk of losing control?
Because there really is no need to wheel spin off from a green light. It demonstrates incompetence, impatience and aggressiveness which are all charging points for this offence to be met. I would certainly not accept a ticket just for moving off quickly.
I assume it is the wheelspin that results in the ticket. But what if the car has sophisticated ESC systems and there is no risk of losing control?
If you can't pull away safely maintaining traction on the road you deserve this ticket. If you want to wheel spin off and accelerate as hard as you can then go on a track day but not on the public roads.
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