An "interesting" day at court this week
Discussion
wc98 said:
thanks for confirming what many of us think about politicians ,particularly tories ,though i think most are of the same ilk. would love to be present to hear something like that to then see the smarmy faced streak of over privileged piss wet themselves when i got a hold of their throat,utter, utter 
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We got involved with them because they were in power and thought it wouldn't hurt to have contacts and be able to take clients to events as a BD tool. We were simply gobsmacked by what we found...s.One of my colleagues gave up a weekend to help the local Conservatives interview for potential representatives. We operated in senior level exec search - so knew how to interview etc.
I remember her coming back in on the Monday and saying she had never met such strange people. She said not one of them would ever be put forward to a client and we would never hire them for our business. But the other people on the interview panel were very positive about many of them!
I recall her saying it was like a freak show - some were very sexist, all seemed out of touch with reality and a couple had gone straight from Cambridge Uni into political research roles and were just the most sneering s
ts, like caricatures of Conservatives from a sketch show. We had about a year of this and then just couldn't take any more.
This was 20 years ago....so things may have changed now...?
DuncB7 said:
I was recently asked to make a claim for injuries I sustained during an accident in 2014. Apparently, you can claim for injuries for which you self medicate and there are no lasting pains. I whole heartedly refused to progress with it; I will not allow myself to be dragged down to the level of these fraudulent imbeciles, not for any sum of money.
I've been hit from behind twice, once about 15 years ago, then about 10 years ago, neither resulted in any injury so no claim was made for injury , first one had ambulance chasers ringing me for days so the insurance must have sold my details, 2nd one I was sat at a set of lights, car stopped behind me , car behind her didn't, pushed her into me.Not a single phone call, later on I found out all 3 of us were with the same insurance company.
REALIST123]dw100 said:
We got involved with them because they were in power and thought it wouldn't hurt to have contacts and be able to take clients to events as a BD tool.
To be frank, you don't sound any more principled than those you criticise.
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To be frank, you don't sound any more principled than those you criticise.
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REALIST123]dw100 said:
We got involved with them because they were in power and thought it wouldn't hurt to have contacts and be able to take clients to events as a BD tool.
To be frank, you don't sound any more principled than those you criticise.
We saw it as a BD tool, same as taking clients to othet events.
Same time as this we would be taking clients to other networking events. Most companies operating at our level do the same. You might, for example, have been taken to Wimbledon or similar. We thought taking clients to events at the HoC would be similar and provide more use than a sporting event.
It's just a way to get senior people to spend time with you. I think though we were naive to expect politicians to act in the same way as professional business people.
It did engender further discussion with our clients but mostly along the lines of "can you believe they think that?!? These people are so out of touch with the real world and they're running our country!'"
I remember having a coffee with one of my contacts, by this point in a very senior role in a European Life Sciences company, about five years later and it was still a topic of discussion. Referring to one of the politicians we had met my contact said that if that guy held those views on women in my company he'd be out of the door in five minutes!
Whatever you might think of my morals based on one post I know that I'm a much better informed and better person than most of the politicians I met during this time. I mention Djanogly above, I've never had to pay back any of my expenses, ever. Make of that what you will.....
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To be frank, you don't sound any more principled than those you criticise.
We saw it as a BD tool, same as taking clients to othet events.
Same time as this we would be taking clients to other networking events. Most companies operating at our level do the same. You might, for example, have been taken to Wimbledon or similar. We thought taking clients to events at the HoC would be similar and provide more use than a sporting event.
It's just a way to get senior people to spend time with you. I think though we were naive to expect politicians to act in the same way as professional business people.
It did engender further discussion with our clients but mostly along the lines of "can you believe they think that?!? These people are so out of touch with the real world and they're running our country!'"
I remember having a coffee with one of my contacts, by this point in a very senior role in a European Life Sciences company, about five years later and it was still a topic of discussion. Referring to one of the politicians we had met my contact said that if that guy held those views on women in my company he'd be out of the door in five minutes!
Whatever you might think of my morals based on one post I know that I'm a much better informed and better person than most of the politicians I met during this time. I mention Djanogly above, I've never had to pay back any of my expenses, ever. Make of that what you will.....
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jdw100 said:
It does and I know who to blame here.
Years ago I was at some Conservative business forum dinner type thing at the House of Commons. John Major was in attendance and someone had asked a question re how legislation was changing in the UK to allow this sort of ambulance chasing/ compensation culture to develop.
The question was taken by the MP for Huntingdon - Jonathan Djanogly (sp?) - who being a lawyer was practically rubbing his hands together with glee - the oily self serving.
He had many reasons as to why the whole thing was a jolly good wheeze...as in good for him and his colleagues but of course not so good for his constituents or people of the country.
I also remember this meeting for the anti-European sentiment. This raised many eyebrows with clients I had taken to the meeting - all of whom worked for businesses that operated across the EU.
These meetings where I actually got to really hear what the Tories actually thought (they were amongst friends so let their guard down) put me off voting for them for life.
Having heard the chap in charge of pensions (short guy with a sort of mullet) tell me he really didn't care about what the 'masses' recieved was the final straw.
This doesn't surprise me one bit. I knew a couple of 'highish' level Tories and, behind closed doors; their utter contempt for the 'average man' was, quite honestly, astonishing. I was considered 'one of them' so there were no walls up... and I was privy to some horrid chat. Years ago I was at some Conservative business forum dinner type thing at the House of Commons. John Major was in attendance and someone had asked a question re how legislation was changing in the UK to allow this sort of ambulance chasing/ compensation culture to develop.
The question was taken by the MP for Huntingdon - Jonathan Djanogly (sp?) - who being a lawyer was practically rubbing his hands together with glee - the oily self serving
.He had many reasons as to why the whole thing was a jolly good wheeze...as in good for him and his colleagues but of course not so good for his constituents or people of the country.
I also remember this meeting for the anti-European sentiment. This raised many eyebrows with clients I had taken to the meeting - all of whom worked for businesses that operated across the EU.
These meetings where I actually got to really hear what the Tories actually thought (they were amongst friends so let their guard down) put me off voting for them for life.
Having heard the chap in charge of pensions (short guy with a sort of mullet) tell me he really didn't care about what the 'masses' recieved was the final straw.
a long time ago, when I worked for a council- in social housing, we had the interesting position of this:
the leader of the council was Mrs Elephant. Names made up to protect the innocent. Mrs E is holder of the portfolio of housing et al.
Her husband ran a local law firm. Mr Elephant paved the way for disrepair claims to be started by social housing tenants. Actively targeting, leafleting etc all 44,000 social housing tnts in the city.
The scale of the claims that came in was so great, specialist teams had to be set up, within housing to deal with them.
So Mr E is fleecing the council's housing dept, which his wife is the leader of. Go figure eh ?
Anyone who has ever been near such homes will realise they are far better maintained than anything in the private sector and in most cases, there is no dis-repair (the usual allegations of "damp"). In most cases its tnts and lifestyle- sealing themselves in houses, smoking, keeping of animals, drying washing inside, never airing houses, stacking rooms with furniture, belongings that causes endless mould growth.
are we any good at arguing in court ? of course not, leading to lots of compo payouts.
the leader of the council was Mrs Elephant. Names made up to protect the innocent. Mrs E is holder of the portfolio of housing et al.
Her husband ran a local law firm. Mr Elephant paved the way for disrepair claims to be started by social housing tenants. Actively targeting, leafleting etc all 44,000 social housing tnts in the city.
The scale of the claims that came in was so great, specialist teams had to be set up, within housing to deal with them.
So Mr E is fleecing the council's housing dept, which his wife is the leader of. Go figure eh ?
Anyone who has ever been near such homes will realise they are far better maintained than anything in the private sector and in most cases, there is no dis-repair (the usual allegations of "damp"). In most cases its tnts and lifestyle- sealing themselves in houses, smoking, keeping of animals, drying washing inside, never airing houses, stacking rooms with furniture, belongings that causes endless mould growth.
are we any good at arguing in court ? of course not, leading to lots of compo payouts.
jdw100 said:
I remember her coming back in on the Monday and saying she had never met such strange people. She said not one of them would ever be put forward to a client and we would never hire them for our business. But the other people on the interview panel were very positive about many of them!
Many a true word spoken in jest. 
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58OBTi18bsYjdw100 said:
I recall her saying it was like a freak show - some were very sexist, all seemed out of touch with reality and a couple had gone straight from Cambridge Uni into political research roles and were just the most sneering sts, like caricatures of Conservatives from a sketch show.
It's not called 'The Westminster Bubble' without good reason.ts, like caricatures of Conservatives from a sketch show.jdw100 said:
We had about a year of this and then just couldn't take any more.
This was 20 years ago....so things may have changed now...?
No. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.This was 20 years ago....so things may have changed now...?
PAULJ5555 said:
Cant they get £2 a week off her benefits, she seems to be able to afford heroin & weed and probably fags.
I was in a position where I was awarded a judgement against a particular scumbag for £2080 (total outstanding, interest, court fees etc, etc...). £6 a month was what the courts deemed him (us..!!!) to be able to afford. That was 13 years ago and it still hits my account on the 15th of every month!!7795 said:
PAULJ5555 said:
Cant they get £2 a week off her benefits, she seems to be able to afford heroin & weed and probably fags.
I was in a position where I was awarded a judgement against a particular scumbag for £2080 (total outstanding, interest, court fees etc, etc...). £6 a month was what the courts deemed him (us..!!!) to be able to afford. That was 13 years ago and it still hits my account on the 15th of every month!!Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff