License endorsement for breaking the rules whilst cycling

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Danattheopticians said:

I'd never want to be a lawyer/solicitor ect... as it's way too much reading and paperwork for me.

That's why AGT has the faster car

[Danattheopticians]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Danattheopticians said:

I'd never want to be a lawyer/solicitor ect... as it's way too much reading and paperwork for me.

That's why AGT has the faster car

LOL. Don't judge

[creampuff]

agtlaw said:

Actually, the chance is nil. Ban - yes. Points - no.

In the entire history of this great nation, has a cyclist ever been banned from driving for committing an offence related to cycling?

[agtlaw]

creampuff said:

agtlaw said:

Actually, the chance is nil. Ban - yes. Points - no.

In the entire history of this great nation, has a cyclist ever been banned from driving for committing an offence related to cycling?

Yes and here's one example.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8197430....

And before you ask, here's a cycling ban (Criminal Behaviour Order):

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...

Edited by agtlaw on Monday 22 August 00:20

[walm]

agtlaw said:

And before you ask, here's a cycling ban (Criminal Behaviour Order):

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...

In fairness, he can cycle but has to let the police know what his bike looks like first!

[agtlaw]

Cycling ASBO.

http://m.leicestermercury.co.uk/violent-cyclist-fr...

[anonymous-user]

agtlaw said:

Cycling ASBO.

http://m.leicestermercury.co.uk/violent-cyclist-fr...

To be fair, the restriction only applies to certain, limited locations.

Is there any evidence anywhere of a person being disqualified from cycling?

I suspect a full-on ban would fall foul of HRA.

[agtlaw]

janesmith1950 said:

To be fair, the restriction only applies to certain, limited locations.

Is there any evidence anywhere of a person being disqualified from cycling?

I suspect a full-on ban would fall foul of HRA.

That's the nature of an ASBO.

I could find out but I have no interest in cyclists.

Does a driving ban "fall foul" of the HRA 1998?

[anonymous-user]

Driving is a regulated activity, cycling is not. A car is a far more dangerous article than a cycle.

I doubt the balancing exercise between the rights of the individual vs protecting society would fall the same way regards a cyclist as it would a motorist.

[agtlaw]

janesmith1950 said:

Driving is a regulated activity, cycling is not.

Wrong. See the Road Traffic Act 1988, etc, etc.

[anonymous-user]

Oh come off it, you're being facetious. I can get on my bicycle, no licence, no registration, no tax, no insurance and ride around at my leisure. If I choose to ride on the road, which I can without hinderance, I must abide by a few rules of the road.

The fact that the RTA cannot be used to disqualify me from cycling should I ignore those rules says it all.

I know you're not too bothered, but if you do have some spare time, can you find a case of someone being disqualified from cycling, or not?

[Derek Smith]

walm said:

In fairness, he can cycle but has to let the police know what his bike looks like first!

How is he supposed to know what it will look like?

[walm]

Derek Smith said:

walm said:

In fairness, he can cycle but has to let the police know what his bike looks like first!

How is he supposed to know what it will look like?

Exactly. Seemed harsh.
I guess more "casing the joint" necessary from now on.
They are really killing spontaneity in the criminal profession these days.

[Danattheopticians]

janesmith1950 said:

Oh come off it, you're being facetious. I can get on my bicycle, no licence, no registration, no tax, no insurance and ride around at my leisure. If I choose to ride on the road, which I can without hinderance, I must abide by a few rules of the road.

The fact that the RTA cannot be used to disqualify me from cycling should I ignore those rules says it all.

I know you're not too bothered, but if you do have some spare time, can you find a case of someone being disqualified from cycling, or not?

This is because "Human Rights" are inalienable (30. Nobody can take away these rights and freedoms from us.) therefor cycling (Driving is licensed so has different restrictions) is protected by your "13. Freedom to move. We all have the right to go where we want in our own country and to travel as we wish." this is why he can't find a ban on it, only other public order offences such as the ASBO. http://www.samaritanmag.com/we-have-30-basic-human...

He know this, hence he's dodging your bullet.

[PAULJ5555]

They don't even make them wear helmets and I find this madness as everything nowadays is safety this safety that.


In the USA they take your driving licence off you if you don't pay your child maintenance payments.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

PAULJ5555 said:

In the USA they take your driving licence off you if you don't pay your child maintenance payments.

I like that idea.

[Retroman]

PAULJ5555 said:

They don't even make them wear helmets and I find this madness as everything nowadays is safety this safety that.

Is it madness that pedestrians aren't forced to wear helmets when it's winter and the pavements are covered in ice and snow?

[PF62]

PAULJ5555 said:

They don't even make them wear helmets and I find this madness as everything nowadays is safety this safety that.

Since cycling deaths mostly seem to involve a truck driving over the cyclist's body, not entirely sure a lump of polystyrene on the head would help much.

[duckwhistle]

Riding an illegal or non compliant Electric bike of which many are easily available can get you in a lot of RTA and construction & use offences and a guaranteed ban + fines. Lots of buyers of these appear to be totally unaware of the regs. Anything between 250 watts and 4 kw is a moped, over 4 kw it's an electric motorcycle. So several offences right away if you even roll it on a road, and some more if you think you are 'off road' which you will find you are not, if riding anywhere to which the public have access.

[micky metro]

Can you be brethalysed and lose your driving licence whilst being over the limit cycling?