6 points for riding an electric unicycle on the pavement
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It is absolutely ridiculous to give points for an offence not related to driving, how can that be right?
Points on a licence are a serious matter to most motorists and can result in very harsh punishment (loss of livelihood etc.) and should be reserved for serious motoring offences where the use of the vehicle in/on which the offence was comitted requires a licence, and even then I think they're often dished out too readily.
Apart from anything else this creates a two tier punishment where someone who doesn't have a driving licence suffers a lesser penalty than one who does.
Shameful...
Points on a licence are a serious matter to most motorists and can result in very harsh punishment (loss of livelihood etc.) and should be reserved for serious motoring offences where the use of the vehicle in/on which the offence was comitted requires a licence, and even then I think they're often dished out too readily.
Apart from anything else this creates a two tier punishment where someone who doesn't have a driving licence suffers a lesser penalty than one who does.
Shameful...
speedyguy said:
catso said:
It is absolutely ridiculous to give points for an offence not related to driving, how can that be right?
Easy job for the quotas ??An FPN for No Insurance is normally 6 points and £300, so I guess the mag's cut him a deal on the fine!! 6 points is the minimum for that offence.
If you didn't have a driving licence, a ghost licence would be created and the points added (you can be disqualified from driving having never even passed a test).
It's a motoring offence (hence points) as it's been classed as a motor vehicle.
If you didn't have a driving licence, a ghost licence would be created and the points added (you can be disqualified from driving having never even passed a test).
It's a motoring offence (hence points) as it's been classed as a motor vehicle.
tapereel said:
speedyguy said:
catso said:
It is absolutely ridiculous to give points for an offence not related to driving, how can that be right?
Easy job for the quotas ??An acquaintance of mine who I used to play football with received a 18 month ban under totting up procedure*. He was a delivery driver, and ended up working in a warehouse that was on a business estate that he lived on the edge of. It would have been a 30 min walk to work or 5/10 mins on a Go-Ped (remember them?). I remember he was a month away from getting his license returned, and he got caught on his Go-Ped, and his ban increased by 6 months for using roads without a license. So I don't think this is anything new?
'* The story of the totting up was quite unique too.
He was already driving on 9 or 12 points, and we were all going to watch Gillingham play away at Wycombe. As we left the junction from the M40 (I think) the traffic was terrible, and we were already pushing time. There were three in the front of the transit, and another 10 or more in the back. He decided to undercut all of the traffic on the hard shoulder and got stopped by a policeman at the end of the slip road, who then heard the commotion from the back. I can't remember if he got a summons, or fixed penalties at the side of the road, but either way he knew he would get a ban.
The police escorted us all to the nearest petrol station, and told us to get taxis the rest of the way (obviously we all piled back in the transit as soon as they were out of site). On the way home he managed to get another 3 or 4 FPN's for speeding/traffic light offences as in his opinion "it couldn't get any worse" so he drove like a dick.
This was 20+ years ago now. He is probably still banned!
'* The story of the totting up was quite unique too.
He was already driving on 9 or 12 points, and we were all going to watch Gillingham play away at Wycombe. As we left the junction from the M40 (I think) the traffic was terrible, and we were already pushing time. There were three in the front of the transit, and another 10 or more in the back. He decided to undercut all of the traffic on the hard shoulder and got stopped by a policeman at the end of the slip road, who then heard the commotion from the back. I can't remember if he got a summons, or fixed penalties at the side of the road, but either way he knew he would get a ban.
The police escorted us all to the nearest petrol station, and told us to get taxis the rest of the way (obviously we all piled back in the transit as soon as they were out of site). On the way home he managed to get another 3 or 4 FPN's for speeding/traffic light offences as in his opinion "it couldn't get any worse" so he drove like a dick.
This was 20+ years ago now. He is probably still banned!
Bang to rights.
Its not a unicycle, as it cant be cycled See European legislation), its a 1 wheeled motor vehicle. Its has no provision under UK law unfortunately, they should maybe extend the law to cover these so they can be used and be on the public highway with some sort of control and requirement for insurance.
Its not a unicycle, as it cant be cycled See European legislation), its a 1 wheeled motor vehicle. Its has no provision under UK law unfortunately, they should maybe extend the law to cover these so they can be used and be on the public highway with some sort of control and requirement for insurance.
Edited by Foliage on Monday 17th October 13:13
Edited by Foliage on Monday 17th October 13:14
Jim1556 said:
Utterly f
king ridiculous!
My 9 yr old daughter has an electric scooter that she rides in our quiet cul-de-sac. Technically, it's probably illegal on and off the path, but seriously? She could probably be charged or at least have it confiscated...
Laws need updating... A battery assisted toy/cycle is NOT a motor vehicle in any reasonable sense!
Doubtful she could be charged, she's below the age of responsibility. Why did you buy it for her without knowing the legality of her riding it?king ridiculous!My 9 yr old daughter has an electric scooter that she rides in our quiet cul-de-sac. Technically, it's probably illegal on and off the path, but seriously? She could probably be charged or at least have it confiscated...
Laws need updating... A battery assisted toy/cycle is NOT a motor vehicle in any reasonable sense!
Loyly said:
Ian Geary said:
For the cyclist maybe, but not necessarily pedestrians...
Then perhaps the cyclists could exercise some of the care and consideration they expect motorists to extend to them on the road? Isn't it something like 50 a year they manage to mow down?
I'm also impressed by the number of cars that stop in the advance stop box. So really quite considerate of all those naughty cyclists to jump red lights for them.
Pete317 said:
Loyly said:
The bloke got what be deserved. He broke the law and received fair punishment.
Good. Now I'm looking forward to all those caught riding their cycles -electric or otherwise - on the pavements, getting 6 points, £180 fine, plus their cycles confiscated and destroyed.
Laurel Green said:
Janluke said:
The latest update of the ebike rules also mean no throttle, the motor only cuts in when the bikes being pedalled
http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/electric-bike-guides/uk-...
Thanks for the link. http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/electric-bike-guides/uk-...
Is good to know that they have gone along with the EU in rating 250 watts as the limit for assisted power and the none requirement of registration, ETC.
Vipers said:
I always thought disabled powered scooters are supposed be insured, is this true, and if so, do the police ever stop one to ask if it is.
The RTA requires motor vehicles to be insured if they are used on a road or other public place. Invalid carriages are specifically excluded from the definition of a motor vehicle so don't need insurance.
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