More condescending TV twaddle
Discussion
Personally I don't overtake on DWL when on the bike. This is for two reasons - a)I know that the BiB frown on it and b)As mentioned, people just don't expect to be overtaken on DWLs. Many car drivers are unpredictable enough at the best of times, without scaring them!
I have plenty of power to overtake pretty much at will, so i'm quite happy to hang back and wait for a more suitable opportunity.
I have plenty of power to overtake pretty much at will, so i'm quite happy to hang back and wait for a more suitable opportunity.
wedg1e said:
If you don't like condescending twaddle, then either don't watch Police reality programmes and dont't drive like a t t!
... and maybe if the Police took time to study a person's driving for a period longer than half a microsecond, they may be able to use rather more of that 'discretion' and not throw the book for trivial issues.
Maybe throwing the book is using discretion but not in the way that the motoring subjuect would like it to be used
I saw the program and thought it was entirely fair. No speed cameras and a BIG marked car - ideal.
I think the guy that got ticketed for overtaking round a blind corner over the DWL was entirely deserved for having the observation skills of a deaf bat. You could see in the program the trafpol was behind him for sometime, overtaking on a road known for bikes means you really DO need to check first!!
It's not as if the broken lines were more than about 10 seconds away anyhow, before and after he overtook.
Interesting lesson too about backing off round corners - keep your foot down and hope nothing is round the corner for those ones, it seems some people don't know nuffink about weight distribution
Only comments about the road are:
1) The chevrons are very very sparse on the corners - big solid ones needed, it can't cost THAT much.
2) 50mph everywhere will breed contempt, put NSL on the fast bits and slower limits for each corner so people will be able to grade the corners by the limit signs.. and stop coming off them so often like that numpty in the ditch.
>> Edited by Globulators on Friday 18th March 12:33
I think the guy that got ticketed for overtaking round a blind corner over the DWL was entirely deserved for having the observation skills of a deaf bat. You could see in the program the trafpol was behind him for sometime, overtaking on a road known for bikes means you really DO need to check first!!
It's not as if the broken lines were more than about 10 seconds away anyhow, before and after he overtook.
Interesting lesson too about backing off round corners - keep your foot down and hope nothing is round the corner for those ones, it seems some people don't know nuffink about weight distribution
Only comments about the road are:
1) The chevrons are very very sparse on the corners - big solid ones needed, it can't cost THAT much.
2) 50mph everywhere will breed contempt, put NSL on the fast bits and slower limits for each corner so people will be able to grade the corners by the limit signs.. and stop coming off them so often like that numpty in the ditch.
>> Edited by Globulators on Friday 18th March 12:33
A blanket 50 limit is pathetic and will be treated with the contempt it deserves.
What's wrong with a realistic limit on the straight bits and places with good sightlines, coupled with "sharp bend" (with direction), "concealed turning", "adverse camber" etc etc type warning signs.
Blanket dumbing down is NOT the answer.
What's wrong with a realistic limit on the straight bits and places with good sightlines, coupled with "sharp bend" (with direction), "concealed turning", "adverse camber" etc etc type warning signs.
Blanket dumbing down is NOT the answer.
Globulators said:
Interesting lesson too about backing off round corners - keep your foot down and hope nothing is round the corner for those ones, it seems some people don't know nuffink about weight distribution
>> Edited by Globulators on Friday 18th March 12:33
My mate used to have 205 GTi and backing out (or backing off) mid bend was not a good idea. Given that he was a copper who had passed the high speed driving course, it was months of piss taking before his collegues let his 'spinning off and turning over into field' incident drop.
gone said:
If you don't like condescending twaddle, then either don't watch Police reality programmes and dont't drive like a t
As usual I find it hard to disagree with Gone.
Yet another BIB slating thread
FWIW I thought the copper was spot on in all those situations. The Elise driver was bloody lucky and deserved a bollocking. I have driven one of those on a track and you have to be trying really hard or be a very crap driver to be swinging the arse out. I personally suspect the latter.
The biker was a complete amateur and didn't have a clue. No leathers, overtaking on a CORNER over the white line. He deserved points.
I would have been happy to deal with the officer in question given the circumstances...
Cheers,
Steve
Street and Co.: I wasn't intending this to be a Police-bashing thread, although as many have said, the 'delivery' of the officer in question perhaps left a little to be desired.
I just had the impression that the whole programme was intended to be 'driver education', but didn't, at least to me, come across that way. I can't offer any better suggestions though.
The whole mentality of this country, including with respect to driving, is that somebody is always in the wrong. My apporach is that if you use the roads, it is up to YOU to survive on them. Don't rely on anybody else doing the right thing, then you won't be caught out when they don't. An example might be the oft-voiced criticism that BMW drivers never indicate. Well, why not assume that nobody will indicate, and that if they do, they'll then go the other way. Then you'll be ready for whatever they do.
So, to get back to Lotus-man: the fact that he lost it- fox, ice, excess speed or whatever else- becomes irrelevant. EXPECT somebody to come round a bend on your side of the road and you'll be halfway to avoiding them. The instead of blame and claim, there'll just be more moments.
Using flying as an analogy: if a plane crashes and you die, you have no comeback. Your family may try to sue the airline, but at the end of the day YOU chose to get on the plane. If you choose to get in a car, accept that it is your responsibility to avoid everyone else's errors.
I just had the impression that the whole programme was intended to be 'driver education', but didn't, at least to me, come across that way. I can't offer any better suggestions though.
The whole mentality of this country, including with respect to driving, is that somebody is always in the wrong. My apporach is that if you use the roads, it is up to YOU to survive on them. Don't rely on anybody else doing the right thing, then you won't be caught out when they don't. An example might be the oft-voiced criticism that BMW drivers never indicate. Well, why not assume that nobody will indicate, and that if they do, they'll then go the other way. Then you'll be ready for whatever they do.
So, to get back to Lotus-man: the fact that he lost it- fox, ice, excess speed or whatever else- becomes irrelevant. EXPECT somebody to come round a bend on your side of the road and you'll be halfway to avoiding them. The instead of blame and claim, there'll just be more
moments. Using flying as an analogy: if a plane crashes and you die, you have no comeback. Your family may try to sue the airline, but at the end of the day YOU chose to get on the plane. If you choose to get in a car, accept that it is your responsibility to avoid everyone else's errors.
wedg1e said:
My apporach is that if you use the roads, it is up to YOU to survive on them. Don't rely on anybody else doing the right thing, then you won't be caught out when they don't. An example might be the oft-voiced criticism that BMW drivers never indicate. Well, why not assume that nobody will indicate, and that if they do, they'll then go the other way. Then you'll be ready for whatever they do.
So, to get back to Lotus-man: the fact that he lost it- fox, ice, excess speed or whatever else- becomes irrelevant. EXPECT somebody to come round a bend on your side of the road and you'll be halfway to avoiding them.
Well said. I find that avoids a great deal of the hassle that some people seem to keep suffering from. Best wishes all,
Dave.
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