You do NOT own the parking space outside your residence.

[Red Devil]

Back Lane
https://goo.gl/maps/MRSmiXK2Koz

Google camera car free zone.
https://goo.gl/maps/Uaj6oCEPJMn
https://goo.gl/maps/GCirBBLKhGy
https://goo.gl/maps/gAkgtdUYKhA2

[KungFuPanda]

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...


Sarah Corcoran said: “No way should they be allowed to park here, my Aunty lives near airport and can’t even park anywhere near her house coz of holiday makers using her road as a car park too it’s so unfair on the residents.”

[Storer]

sleepezy said:

Thanks for clarifying Storer - hadn't realised it was private, but equally had never driven down there so hadn't really been on my mind.

AZ - I would park either behind the village hall (never had to but wouldn't have any qualms given our village hall car park is used by all and sundry, quite rightly), but actually tend to park on the gravel near the farm entrance on the 90 deg corner further down the road if the normal car park is full - however, if you've never walked down the road you pictured you probably don't do the same walk as me!

The corner/farm entrance you mention is the one I recommend parking at. (Valuables out of sight of course)

If you look at the google streetview picture for Back Lane you will see a dropped kerb. That is to signify that the roadway is not part of the highway. It is a way of telling a 'private' road from the public highway.

[Mandalore]

Dixy said:

I am always looking for new dog walks, can you give us a google earth link so we can find it and give the lady a more diverse group of people to be annoyed at.

Oh dear!. It was a private road all along and not owned by you as a tax payer.

And...now you look like a total cock, for writing what you have.

[Trabi601]

KungFuPanda said:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...


Sarah Corcoran said: “No way should they be allowed to park here, my Aunty lives near airport and can’t even park anywhere near her house coz of holiday makers using her road as a car park too it’s so unfair on the residents.”

That's a pretty valid point!

Regardless of those who claim 'it's my right' - it's bloody well inconsiderate... I've always stumped up for airport parking. Usually valet parking, as it's just not right to abandon your car in a residential street whilst you bugger off for a couple of weeks.

[Sa Calobra]

The airport one, why chose to live near an airport? It's not as though the airport is new.

Sorry, they don't own the tarmac. It's a public highway.

[Welshbeef]

Sa Calobra said:

The airport one, why chose to live near an airport? It's not as though the airport is new.

Sorry, they don't own the tarmac. It's a public highway.

Well local residence pay for its upkeep via council tax is wager none of those parking as suggested pay anything towards the council tax in that area

[Sa Calobra]

Welshbeef said:

Well local residence pay for its upkeep via council tax is wager none of those parking as suggested pay anything towards the council tax in that area

Sure about that? Can the people who park there also question the nature and reason for any Hale residents who travel and park elsewhere? I'd hate to visit the area and have my car defaced by an idiot thinking I'm a holiday maker simply as he/she doesn't recognise my car.

I can park anywhere as long as there are no permit or parking restrictions.

The turning circle- it's not obvious. It's got a bloody bay in it. Turning circles have signs.

The people who park outside their homes, why not? Are there any parking restrictions signs? Blame bad noddy new build planners not residents.

Edited by Sa Calobra on Saturday 1st April 08:34

[GT03ROB]

Sa Calobra said:

I can park anywhere as long as there are no permit or parking restrictions.

There are many things we can do, which are neither restricted or illegal, it does not make them right or considerate.

Having the right to do something does not make it right to do so.

[Sa Calobra]

Bad analogy. So me paying car tax, insurance and vat and that means I have to not only observe the laws of the land but I also have to observe Mr Jones's personal law that says I can't park on a public highway where he seems fit. Sorry no.

For the record, when I go to Manchester airport I get a taxi. It's easier, less stressful but.....

Back home Mr Jones is wondering why I'm blocking his section of tarmac for two weeks.

So onto block-spacing in an area, you speak to your council, if enough speak up and the council deems it necessary the area becomes permit only.

What's the problem?

[Hol]

GT03ROB said:

Sa Calobra said:

I can park anywhere as long as there are no permit or parking restrictions.

There are many things we can do, which are neither restricted or illegal, it does not make them right or considerate.

Having the right to do something does not make it right to do so.

I often wonder if people like him are like that because they are unable to get anywhere in life themselves through natural ability or charisma.

[Sa Calobra]

Now you have lost me. You'll need to try harder on your insults.

[Fozziebear]

Sa Calobra said:

Bad analogy. So me paying car tax, insurance and vat and that means I have to not only observe the laws of the land but I also have to observe Mr Jones's personal law that says I can't park on a public highway where he seems fit. Sorry no.

For the record, when I go to Manchester airport I get a taxi. It's easier, less stressful but.....

Back home Mr Jones is wondering why I'm blocking his section of tarmac for two weeks.

So onto block-spacing in an area, you speak to your council, if enough speak up and the council deems it necessary the area becomes permit only.

What's the problem?

As soon as permit parking comes in on a residential street it often causes financial issues and worse parking between neighbors if there's no drives. They did the parking permits in my old street due to a couple of idiots with drives for 3 cars complaining about cars outside, these cars were normally guests at neighbors or folk jumping on the tube.

[Alucidnation]

Most councils will only enforce parking permits if the amount of houses without driveways is over a certain percentage.

I think.

[Drawweight]

Not only do some people think they own the space in front of their house, some think they own the whole road!

My sisters partner drives a ready mix type lorry and was passing through a newly finished bit of estate (nothing special just a Taylor Wimpy) on his way to a bit that they were still working on.

A guy comes out his house and informs him that he can't come this way as it's a 'private road'.

[HantsRat]

I have pulled over a vehicle the other day due to no insurance, he stopped in a private road. Whilst waiting for recovery truck a home owner came out and told us all to move as we were on a private road. I couldn't help but laugh it was hilarious. He wasn't impressed when I pointed out anyone can drive on his 'private' road and I wouldn't be moving. The only difference is the council do not pay for the upkeep of said road.

[Red Devil]

Do the presence of gates with/without a rising barrier make any difference?
https://goo.gl/maps/pYo3nTu6Nc12
https://goo.gl/maps/Dat4b1RAu6v

[blueg33]

HantsRat said:

I have pulled over a vehicle the other day due to no insurance, he stopped in a private road. Whilst waiting for recovery truck a home owner came out and told us all to move as we were on a private road. I couldn't help but laugh it was hilarious. He wasn't impressed when I pointed out anyone can drive on his 'private' road and I wouldn't be moving. The only difference is the council do not pay for the upkeep of said road.

Of course if you were on private land without consent you may have been trespassing. land does not have to have access excluded for trespass to occur. If by waiting on the land you were depriving the owner of the use of the land then that is actionable whether or not a loss has occurred.

So you shouldn't be laughing, you should be apologising.

[mfmman]

Drawweight said:

Not only do some people think they own the space in front of their house, some think they own the whole road!

My sisters partner drives a ready mix type lorry and was passing through a newly finished bit of estate (nothing special just a Taylor Wimpy) on his way to a bit that they were still working on.

A guy comes out his house and informs him that he can't come this way as it's a 'private road'.

I think whilst the homeowners use of 'private' might have not been the best, what he might have actually been referring to was the frequent agreement set up to help with sales of new estate houses that vehicles involved in the on-going development will not use the roads past those houses already occupied. The sub-contractor will (should) have been aware of this

[HantsRat]

blueg33 said:

Of course if you were on private land without consent you may have been trespassing. land does not have to have access excluded for trespass to occur. If by waiting on the land you were depriving the owner of the use of the land then that is actionable whether or not a loss has occurred.

So you shouldn't be laughing, you should be apologising.

Except Police are exempt from that when working and performing legal police duties. It was a normal road, just unadopted from the council. Anyone can enter said land.