Scaffolding Lorry/Van
Discussion
Alex_225 said:
That's exactly the point I was getting too is that at night it's very easy to misjudge flatbed part of the van and as I understand it has caught a handful of drivers by surprise when parking etc.
Mmm. I bet they're regularly "caught by surprise" by the odd wall and bollard, too.Alex_225 said:
You sir are a fine representative of PH, the side that gives the forum a bad name!
May I suggest that before you berate the OP (me in this case) that maybe you read the actual thread?
For your benefit I will summarise, this is not my road this is the road my mother lives on and she asked me if I knew anything about the legalities of such a vehicle as neighbours had commented on it being a bit of a pain. I thought since there's some decent knowledge from people on here I'd ask and my curiosity was sated within the first few posts but others went on to discuss. This has literally nothing to do with whether I get to look at the thing parked on the road as I can't see it from my house, mainly for the fact that iI live five miles away from where I'm talking about.
So please, don't just lay into someone when you're misinformed.
You've repeatedly posted that it's "deceptively wide", "deceptive when driving at night" and apparently causing you issues reversing off your driveway, in addition to it being an eyesore. It's clear you and/or your mum hate the thing being there and are looking for any legal channels to get it shifted.May I suggest that before you berate the OP (me in this case) that maybe you read the actual thread?
For your benefit I will summarise, this is not my road this is the road my mother lives on and she asked me if I knew anything about the legalities of such a vehicle as neighbours had commented on it being a bit of a pain. I thought since there's some decent knowledge from people on here I'd ask and my curiosity was sated within the first few posts but others went on to discuss. This has literally nothing to do with whether I get to look at the thing parked on the road as I can't see it from my house, mainly for the fact that iI live five miles away from where I'm talking about.
So please, don't just lay into someone when you're misinformed.
Edited by Alex_225 on Wednesday 22 March 15:47
Here is a picture of the offending vehicle and road from another angle, kindly provided by you :
The load body is barely any wider than the 4x4 parked in front of it so I'm not seeing what the great issue is here. May I suggest that you ring round some local driving schools or perhaps even the IAM to book some lessons on how to drive properly as it's clear you're having difficulties judging distances and vehicle widths. You should pass on the details to those neighbours who have "been caught by surprise" as it sounds like they would benefit from the extra tuition, too.
I drive an artic for a living and could drive down there quite comfortably with a 45ft trailer on the back so I can safely conclude that the problem here exists between the seat and the steering wheel and not with the scaffold van.
Old Tyke said:
You've repeatedly posted that it's "deceptively wide", "deceptive when driving at night" and apparently causing you issues reversing off your driveway, in addition to it being an eyesore. It's clear you and/or your mum hate the thing being there and are looking for any legal channels to get it shifted.
Here is a picture of the offending vehicle and road from another angle, kindly provided by you :
The load body is barely any wider than the 4x4 parked in front of it so I'm not seeing what the great issue is here. May I suggest that you ring round some local driving schools or perhaps even the IAM to book some lessons on how to drive properly as it's clear you're having difficulties judging distances and vehicle widths. You should pass on the details to those neighbours who have "been caught by surprise" as it sounds like they would benefit from the extra tuition, too.
I drive an artic for a living and could drive down there quite comfortably with a 45ft trailer on the back so I can safely conclude that the problem here exists between the seat and the steering wheel and not with the scaffold van.
Somehow you can have a rummage through my Photobucket account but can't actually take the time to read my bloody posts!! Here is a picture of the offending vehicle and road from another angle, kindly provided by you :
The load body is barely any wider than the 4x4 parked in front of it so I'm not seeing what the great issue is here. May I suggest that you ring round some local driving schools or perhaps even the IAM to book some lessons on how to drive properly as it's clear you're having difficulties judging distances and vehicle widths. You should pass on the details to those neighbours who have "been caught by surprise" as it sounds like they would benefit from the extra tuition, too.
I drive an artic for a living and could drive down there quite comfortably with a 45ft trailer on the back so I can safely conclude that the problem here exists between the seat and the steering wheel and not with the scaffold van.
I don't live on the road and this has literally no bearing on me or my ability to park, you can see the corner of my car in that posts and funnily enough it's parked on the road as a visitor. I posted up out of interest so again may I suggest, you wind your neck in and stop berating me for asking a f*cking question.
Also, you have seen two photographs of the vehicle parked on one part of the road. You have no idea if that the van moves around or gets parked in other places, that photograph was to show the vehicle as an example and questioning it's legality.
Thanks for the IAM suggestion (been there done that) but may I also make a suggestion, shove your 45ft trailer somewhere!
Alex_225 said:
...this has literally no bearing on me or my ability to park
So we're all agreed that it's actually perfectly visible, and the problem is that some people can't park for toffee? Great.Alex_225 said:
...you can see the corner of my car in that posts
TBH, I can see the corner of both vehicles very clearly.
TooMany2cvs said:
TBH, I can see the corner of both vehicles very clearly.
If arguing on the internet and always having to be right is your thing, you can think whatever you like! Another PH thread that descends into pedantry as a minority do their best to condescend and argue for no other reason than to argue and prove their superiority over people they'll never meet.
Alex_225 said:
Another PH thread that descends into pedantry as a minority do their best to condescend and argue for no other reason than to argue
So, just to summarise...Alex - "Can this be parked here?"
Everybody else - Yes, it's perfectly legal.
Alex - "But it doesn't look nice!"
Everybody else - Tough tits.
Alex - "Surely they're dodging the tax man?"
Everybody else - No.
Alex - "Well, it isn't safe - it's too wide!"
Everybody else - It's the same width as several other vehicles there.
Alex - "Well, it still isn't safe - you can't see the corners!"
Everybody else - Oh, ffs, seriously? Now you're getting desperate...
Alex - "Pedants!"
TooMany2cvs said:
So, just to summarise...
Alex - "Can this be parked here?"
Everybody else - Yes, it's perfectly legal.
Alex - "But it doesn't look nice!"
Everybody else - Tough tits.
Alex - "Surely they're dodging the tax man?"
Everybody else - No.
Alex - "Well, it isn't safe - it's too wide!"
Everybody else - It's the same width as several other vehicles there.
Alex - "Well, it still isn't safe - you can't see the corners!"
Everybody else - Oh, ffs, seriously? Now you're getting desperate...
Alex - "Pedants!"
Alex - "Can this be parked here?"
Everybody else - Yes, it's perfectly legal.
Alex - "But it doesn't look nice!"
Everybody else - Tough tits.
Alex - "Surely they're dodging the tax man?"
Everybody else - No.
Alex - "Well, it isn't safe - it's too wide!"
Everybody else - It's the same width as several other vehicles there.
Alex - "Well, it still isn't safe - you can't see the corners!"
Everybody else - Oh, ffs, seriously? Now you're getting desperate...
Alex - "Pedants!"
Alex_225 said:
Thanks chaps, much appreciated. I knew someone on PH would have some more official info.
I had a feeling it was within rights to be parked there, just not an ideal location for it but legally it's sound so can't argue that.
Cheers
I had a feeling it was within rights to be parked there, just not an ideal location for it but legally it's sound so can't argue that.
Cheers
Alex_225 said:
In terms of the aesthetics of the vehicle, well that's just opinion so if it's legal then tough sh!t on that one haha. My neighbour parks a bloody great box van on his drive which is ugly and actually blocks light out of the downstairs bedroom but not much I can (or care) to do about that.
Can't see anything unreasonable, desperate or particularly pedantic in my two posts? The posts prior to your charming self and the HGV driving god pouncing on the chance to be obnoxious. Alex_225 said:
Can't see anything unreasonable, desperate or particularly pedantic in my two posts?
My apologies if some of my paraphrasing is misattributed. It appears that "doesn't look nice" and "tax man" were, indeed, other posters.As for the rest - well, the two comments you've quoted weren't your only two comments on the thread, were they...?
Maybe don't complain about road parking if none of the householders can afford a house with a driveway ??
Shock horror, people park on roads in a variety of vehicle types.
I feel sorry for the poor scaffolder, trying to park amongst that lot. I bet there's some shoddy mum parking going on and white car owners, dominating their kerbs.
Shock horror, people park on roads in a variety of vehicle types.
I feel sorry for the poor scaffolder, trying to park amongst that lot. I bet there's some shoddy mum parking going on and white car owners, dominating their kerbs.
TooMany2cvs said:
My apologies if some of my paraphrasing is misattributed. It appears that "doesn't look nice" and "tax man" were, indeed, other posters.
As for the rest - well, the two comments you've quoted weren't your only two comments on the thread, were they...?
My other responses were in regard to the sudden backlash which may have resulted from the other posts but seemed to be aimed at my first post. As for the rest - well, the two comments you've quoted weren't your only two comments on the thread, were they...?
austinsmirk said:
Maybe don't complain about road parking if none of the householders can afford a house with a driveway ??
Shock horror, people park on roads in a variety of vehicle types.
I feel sorry for the poor scaffolder, trying to park amongst that lot. I bet there's some shoddy mum parking going on and white car owners, dominating their kerbs.
Odd judgement considering that many of the properties (not all) have a single/double driveway, including the scaffolder but yet seem to refuse to use them! Their own fault I admit. Shock horror, people park on roads in a variety of vehicle types.
I feel sorry for the poor scaffolder, trying to park amongst that lot. I bet there's some shoddy mum parking going on and white car owners, dominating their kerbs.
I do find it odd (or maybe very PH of you) to point how people 'not being able to afford a house with a driveway' implies that how much your house is worth is indicative of whether you should accept something that is right or wrong. The irony being that the houses down this road are in the region of £550-600k so what level of affordability you deem worthy must be quite impressive.
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