Police car with camera gun
Discussion
HantsRat said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Precisely. People, me included would mind less if proper dangerous driving was monitored and policed as rigorously.
It is. So is speeding such as this situation.If you need me to explain why someone overtaking at speed just before a corner is more worthy of focus apposed to someone (for EG) doing 70mph in a straight line on clear road then maybe a motoring forum is not for you.
Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Thursday 20th April 15:04
sc0tt said:
Why?
Surely they provide 14 days for a reason.
Still nothing.
Seeing as we're old muckers, brothers in arms, together in adversity and all that old flannel how about if yours doesn't come through you pay half of my fine? I mean, it seems only fair.Surely they provide 14 days for a reason.
Still nothing.
Of course if yours does come through and you'd like the favour reciprocated I shall vanish from PH and you'll never hear of me again!
Timbuktu said:
I always wonder why people speak in code when describing speeding or feel the need to use "leptons" or just won't state a speed...
Has anyone EVER been prosecuted for stating that they had been speeding online? I doubt it, especially without a recording or anything.
You could just say you made it up couldn't you...
You don't need to make it up.Has anyone EVER been prosecuted for stating that they had been speeding online? I doubt it, especially without a recording or anything.
You could just say you made it up couldn't you...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
10 Pence Short said:
...snip...
When the accident happened, 4 of the first few cars on the scene happened to be high performance Hondas. A couple of the Civics had windows stickers with the club URL on them. It didn't take a rocket scientist to find out what my username was, and within a few hours of the accident the Police had downloaded the forum and printed out all of my comments. In the light of the events that day, some of the comments on the Civic forum turned out to be very damning. People who didn't know the context in which they were being said, or the character who was saying them would have to take the comments on face value, and face value said that I was a boy racing tw&t.
So now the Police had evidence from witnesses and they had evidence from an internet forum which proved I treated that road like a plaything and was predisposed to driving quickly.
10PS wasn't prosecuted for what he said on an internet forum, but it was used in evidence against him.When the accident happened, 4 of the first few cars on the scene happened to be high performance Hondas. A couple of the Civics had windows stickers with the club URL on them. It didn't take a rocket scientist to find out what my username was, and within a few hours of the accident the Police had downloaded the forum and printed out all of my comments. In the light of the events that day, some of the comments on the Civic forum turned out to be very damning. People who didn't know the context in which they were being said, or the character who was saying them would have to take the comments on face value, and face value said that I was a boy racing tw&t.
So now the Police had evidence from witnesses and they had evidence from an internet forum which proved I treated that road like a plaything and was predisposed to driving quickly.
If you've not seen this thread before, you should read it. Very sobering.
HantsRat said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Precisely. People, me included would mind less if proper dangerous driving was monitored and policed as rigorously.
It is. So is speeding such as this situation.Especially on the "open road" (big A roads etc) you can drive for quite some time without seeing another Police Car.
I could drive like an absolute
, overtake on corners, tailgate, swerve, be on my phone, and face no reprimand, but being an attentive driver doing 62 in a 50, on a wide open road, with a squaddie with his Laser gun of fun, gets a fine. You would need to be pretty ignorant, especially in your line of work, to fail to understand how that can grate on many motorists.
eta line/life typo.
Edited by xjay1337 on Thursday 20th April 16:12
xjay1337 said:
I completely disagree HantsRat.
Especially on the "open road" (big A roads etc) you can drive for quite some time without seeing another Police Car.
I could drive like an absolute, overtake on corners, tailgate, swerve, be on my phone, and face no reprimand, but being an attentive driver doing 62 in a 50, on a wide open road, with a squaddie with his Laser gun of fun, gets a fine.
You would need to be pretty ignorant, especially in your line of work, to fail to understand how that can grate on many motorists.
eta line/life typo.
You could yes and if you came across an unmarked Police car you would be done for it. People don't drive like you describe above when a marked police car is on the roads so we rarely come across these things unless we are in an unmarked. Unfortunately cameras can't detect bad driving but speed still needs to be enforced. Hence one of the reasons it's civilian staff in the camera vans to leave the Police to go out and deal with other offences such as ones you describe above.Especially on the "open road" (big A roads etc) you can drive for quite some time without seeing another Police Car.
I could drive like an absolute
, overtake on corners, tailgate, swerve, be on my phone, and face no reprimand, but being an attentive driver doing 62 in a 50, on a wide open road, with a squaddie with his Laser gun of fun, gets a fine. You would need to be pretty ignorant, especially in your line of work, to fail to understand how that can grate on many motorists.
eta line/life typo.
Edited by xjay1337 on Thursday 20th April 16:12
As to not seeing Police cars, lobby your MP. Government are the ones that cut our funding. Even more so with roads policing.
That's correct.
Despite what you might have read online / in a tabloid newspaper, it's worth bearing in mind that the new sentencing regime only applies to the following speeds:
20 mph limit. 41 mph and above.
30 mph limit. 51 mph and above.
40 mph limit. 66 mph and above.
50 mph limit. 76 mph and above.
60 mph limit. 91 mph and above.
70 mph limit. 101 mph and above.
In all other cases, there's no change to the existing regime. £100 fixed penalties will still apply. Speed awareness courses do still exist.
If court proceedings are instituted then the maximum fine is completely unchanged. £2500 for a motorway offence. £1000 for any other road.
Despite what you might have read online / in a tabloid newspaper, it's worth bearing in mind that the new sentencing regime only applies to the following speeds:
20 mph limit. 41 mph and above.
30 mph limit. 51 mph and above.
40 mph limit. 66 mph and above.
50 mph limit. 76 mph and above.
60 mph limit. 91 mph and above.
70 mph limit. 101 mph and above.
In all other cases, there's no change to the existing regime. £100 fixed penalties will still apply. Speed awareness courses do still exist.
If court proceedings are instituted then the maximum fine is completely unchanged. £2500 for a motorway offence. £1000 for any other road.
agtlaw said:
Despite what you might have read online / in a tabloid newspaper, it's worth bearing in mind that the new sentencing regime only applies to the following speeds:
20 mph limit. 41 mph and above.
30 mph limit. 51 mph and above.
40 mph limit. 66 mph and above.
50 mph limit. 76 mph and above.
60 mph limit. 91 mph and above.
70 mph limit. 101 mph and above.
In all other cases, there's no change to the existing regime. £100 fixed penalties will still apply. Speed awareness courses do still exist. The maximum fine is completely unchanged. £2500 for a motorway offence. £1000 for any other road.
Excellent summary - could do worse than having its own thread and being stickied for the next couple of months.20 mph limit. 41 mph and above.
30 mph limit. 51 mph and above.
40 mph limit. 66 mph and above.
50 mph limit. 76 mph and above.
60 mph limit. 91 mph and above.
70 mph limit. 101 mph and above.
In all other cases, there's no change to the existing regime. £100 fixed penalties will still apply. Speed awareness courses do still exist. The maximum fine is completely unchanged. £2500 for a motorway offence. £1000 for any other road.
HantsRat said:
You could yes and if you came across an unmarked Police car you would be done for it. People don't drive like you describe above when a marked police car is on the roads so we rarely come across these things unless we are in an unmarked. Unfortunately cameras can't detect bad driving but speed still needs to be enforced. Hence one of the reasons it's civilian staff in the camera vans to leave the Police to go out and deal with other offences such as ones you describe above.
As to not seeing Police cars, lobby your MP. Government are the ones that cut our funding. Even more so with roads policing.
I am hesitant to disagree with you however on this highlighted point you are wrong.As to not seeing Police cars, lobby your MP. Government are the ones that cut our funding. Even more so with roads policing.
I have dealt with a number of camera offences that have speeding, section 36 and dangerous or careless driving offences all within the images. When this is in evidence they can and are dealt with.
Here's an example of careless driving and speeding detected by a camera that apparently "...cameras can't detect..." found after a quick google search.
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