Is the M1 South Yorkshire now 60mph limit ?
Discussion
xjay1337 said:
No peer group or politician in their right might would campaign to INCREASE speed limits, especially where they are claiming it's for air quality reasons.
It would be suicide politically.
But isn't the point that the speed limit in this case has been reduced without proper justification? Therefore, to my mind this wouldn't be a case of campaigning for a speed limit increase, it would simply be a campaign for the normal motorway limit to apply unless specific circumstances (such as an accident or very bad weather) made a temporary lower limit appropriate. It would be suicide politically.
What appears to be happening here is a reduction in the limit every day in the name of air quality when the vehicles being affected contribute the least to air pollution - total nonsense IMO.
JNW1 said:
xjay1337 said:
No peer group or politician in their right might would campaign to INCREASE speed limits, especially where they are claiming it's for air quality reasons.
It would be suicide politically.
But isn't the point that the speed limit in this case has been reduced without proper justification? Therefore, to my mind this wouldn't be a case of campaigning for a speed limit increase, it would simply be a campaign for the normal motorway limit to apply unless specific circumstances (such as an accident or very bad weather) made a temporary lower limit appropriate. It would be suicide politically.
What appears to be happening here is a reduction in the limit every day in the name of air quality when the vehicles being affected contribute the least to air pollution - total nonsense IMO.
But as I said, the "anti speed" lobbys and that annoying curtain twitcher down your road will say you are promoting speeding which is bad and kills puppies and melts ice caps!
JNW1 said:
xjay1337 said:
No peer group or politician in their right might would campaign to INCREASE speed limits, especially where they are claiming it's for air quality reasons.
It would be suicide politically.
But isn't the point that the speed limit in this case has been reduced without proper justification? Therefore, to my mind this wouldn't be a case of campaigning for a speed limit increase, it would simply be a campaign for the normal motorway limit to apply unless specific circumstances (such as an accident or very bad weather) made a temporary lower limit appropriate. It would be suicide politically.
What appears to be happening here is a reduction in the limit every day in the name of air quality when the vehicles being affected contribute the least to air pollution - total nonsense IMO.
I drive Jn 31 to Jn 34 every day and TBH the 60 mph limit makes no difference to my journey time mainly because of the additional lane and improvement to the junctions.
In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
GreatGranny said:
I drive Jn 31 to Jn 34 every day and TBH the 60 mph limit makes no difference to my journey time mainly because of the additional lane and improvement to the junctions.
In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
What you are saying is that breaking the Law is easy anyway because there are only two cameras. That misses the point, in that the 60 limit is inappropriate and should not be imposed in the first place and quite likely indicates that similar nonsense will now occur elsewhere without recourse. What is a mild inconvenience for no just cause could become a major inconvenience when the precedent is set.In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
cmaguire said:
GreatGranny said:
I drive Jn 31 to Jn 34 every day and TBH the 60 mph limit makes no difference to my journey time mainly because of the additional lane and improvement to the junctions.
In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
What you are saying is that breaking the Law is easy anyway because there are only two cameras. That misses the point, in that the 60 limit is inappropriate and should not be imposed in the first place and quite likely indicates that similar nonsense will now occur elsewhere without recourse. What is a mild inconvenience for no just cause could become a major inconvenience when the precedent is set.In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
GreatGranny said:
I drive Jn 31 to Jn 34 every day and TBH the 60 mph limit makes no difference to my journey time mainly because of the additional lane and improvement to the junctions.
In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
Speed kills, dontcha know. But motorways are statistically the safest roads, besides, who said that lowering the speed limit would help anyway? Yer, but, err, emissions, yep, diesel emissions. So does your new, lowered speed limit apply to Euro6 diesels, or petrol cars, or electric cars? What about LGV's, they're the biggest polluters and can't even do the 60 limit being imposed on everyone. The public were pushed into diesels, now you want to lower the speed limit because of them? Anyway, it's about traffic management? What, off peak? Erm, noise, yes, it's about noise reduction. Definitely noise reduction. If you were worried about noise, why did you move to a house next to a motorway? Err, we just don't like cars. In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
GreatGranny said:
I drive Jn 31 to Jn 34 every day and TBH the 60 mph limit makes no difference to my journey time mainly because of the additional lane and improvement to the junctions.
In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
It could be a problem for you because there's 3 cameras northbound between 31 and 34, surely if you drive this route everyday you should have noticed. But I've not seen any flashing away yet. In fact it's improved since the managed motorway has been introduced.
There are only 2 lots of cameras on this stretch so you can go over 60 with no problems and if the traffic allows.
Can't really believe the hysteria on this thread.
xjay1337 said:
No peer group or politician in their right might would campaign to INCREASE speed limits, especially where they are claiming it's for air quality reasons.
It would be suicide politically.
It will take a group of "normal" people (eg us lot) to campaign.
Maybe if we get 10,000 people to blat up and down at 70 and get fines and refuse to pay...
Let's do that but first I break your number plate and you break mine? I think it'll get the message across better if they can't find who did it...It would be suicide politically.
It will take a group of "normal" people (eg us lot) to campaign.
Maybe if we get 10,000 people to blat up and down at 70 and get fines and refuse to pay...
steveball said:
Even at 05:30 the cameras are set to 60mph southbound.
odd - not least as I'm sure there wasn't much traffic at that time!I'd not normally comment on this thread, except I went up and down this section of M1 this week - northbound was 60 both afternoons. But southbound wasn't, on Thursday at least; even when the north had the signs up on the gantries (saw them in my mirrors).
ks isn't it. 
Re: the OP...
Is this the stretch just north and south of Sheffield you are referring to? I drive this southbound almost every week (going between Halifax and Kettering, my life of luxury). At first te constant 60mph limit for about ten miles enraged me no end, but I did start to notice that toward the end of the 60mph limit (going south) is a junction that seems to reliably spill traffic out into the first lane of the motorway. I think it's junction 28 with the A38. The NSL is almost always reinstated not far beyond that junction. My suspicion now is that the 60mph limit is to regulate the traffic hitting that junction at any one time. And if that's the case then there is some sense to it because when the first lane is clogged with people trying to get off the motorway it causes tailbacks for a long way leading up to that junction. What they should really do is sort out the junction itself, but then more roadworks
Totally get what a pita the 60mph limit is, especially when the road looks completely clear!
Is this the stretch just north and south of Sheffield you are referring to? I drive this southbound almost every week (going between Halifax and Kettering, my life of luxury). At first te constant 60mph limit for about ten miles enraged me no end, but I did start to notice that toward the end of the 60mph limit (going south) is a junction that seems to reliably spill traffic out into the first lane of the motorway. I think it's junction 28 with the A38. The NSL is almost always reinstated not far beyond that junction. My suspicion now is that the 60mph limit is to regulate the traffic hitting that junction at any one time. And if that's the case then there is some sense to it because when the first lane is clogged with people trying to get off the motorway it causes tailbacks for a long way leading up to that junction. What they should really do is sort out the junction itself, but then more roadworks
Totally get what a pita the 60mph limit is, especially when the road looks completely clear!
Tubes63 said:
Re: the OP...
Is this the stretch just north and south of Sheffield you are referring to? I drive this southbound almost every week (going between Halifax and Kettering, my life of luxury). At first te constant 60mph limit for about ten miles enraged me no end, but I did start to notice that toward the end of the 60mph limit (going south) is a junction that seems to reliably spill traffic out into the first lane of the motorway. I think it's junction 28 with the A38. The NSL is almost always reinstated not far beyond that junction. My suspicion now is that the 60mph limit is to regulate the traffic hitting that junction at any one time. And if that's the case then there is some sense to it because when the first lane is clogged with people trying to get off the motorway it causes tailbacks for a long way leading up to that junction. What they should really do is sort out the junction itself, but then more roadworks
Totally get what a pita the 60mph limit is, especially when the road looks completely clear!
Yes that's the section, 35a to 28. Recently exiting at j28 does seem to be a bit sticky but I don't think they need to start slowing you down 30 miles before the junction. Is this the stretch just north and south of Sheffield you are referring to? I drive this southbound almost every week (going between Halifax and Kettering, my life of luxury). At first te constant 60mph limit for about ten miles enraged me no end, but I did start to notice that toward the end of the 60mph limit (going south) is a junction that seems to reliably spill traffic out into the first lane of the motorway. I think it's junction 28 with the A38. The NSL is almost always reinstated not far beyond that junction. My suspicion now is that the 60mph limit is to regulate the traffic hitting that junction at any one time. And if that's the case then there is some sense to it because when the first lane is clogged with people trying to get off the motorway it causes tailbacks for a long way leading up to that junction. What they should really do is sort out the junction itself, but then more roadworks
Totally get what a pita the 60mph limit is, especially when the road looks completely clear!
And also it's northbound as well for 30 miles. I do thousands of miles a year on motorways and the overhead gantries usually start to warn you a couple of miles before any problems.
ToothbrushMan said:
and i imagine thousands of drivers who have been trapped in that 30 miles of "60" zone to open the taps up as soon as the cones finish......so then youve got scores of people doing 90 plus.
I tend to just cruise through it all at 80ish and slow for the hadecs3 cameras. FiF said:
Oh watch that happen.Not.
I'll drive down it on the limiter in 2nd just to piss them off.
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