Totting up ban coming !!
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Phil Dicky said:
Sucking for the ban is excatlywhat Im going to do...just wondered if I can mitigate the ban down thats all.
Interesting question.I always thought that the totting up ban was 6 months by default, I had one about 30 years back, and the 'flexibility' was reserved for bans associated with one-off offences.
I expect your decision is ultimately whether you wish to have 3 years on the cusp of a six-month ban if naughty again (although a different hardship plea could work a second time) if you plea hardship for others at this time, or whether you take the 6 month ban and clean the slate.
funkyrobot said:
hornetrider said:
funkyrobot said:
Fine.
Maybe one day you'll learn from your actions.
This comment tells us everything we need to know.Maybe one day you'll learn from your actions.
t about it to boot.Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
hornetrider said:
funkyrobot said:
hornetrider said:
funkyrobot said:
Fine.
Maybe one day you'll learn from your actions.
This comment tells us everything we need to know.Maybe one day you'll learn from your actions.
t about it to boot.Take a long hard look in the mirror about what you're posting.
Indeed. I asked for advice as I was a victim of an attack. This isn't a thread about a victim, is it.
Also, if you look at my thread properly you'll see some posters did have a pop.
I gave the OP some advice and then asked some questions. Pretty much the same happened on my thread.
If anything, you are the one being the bozo. You don't seem to like people who have an opinion that is different to yours. You also say that you don't want this to turn into a debate, but you keep coming back and keep posting. I don't think you really know what you want.
I would look at what I've posted in the mirror, but it's back to front.
hornetrider said:
You came onto this forum very recently seeking relationship advice and received lots of it. I don't remember anyone having a go at you for your life choices and being a tt about it to boot.
Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
You're wasting your breath, these people live for sticking the knife into others on SPL. Hope and pray that all of them with their outlook have to come on asking for advice about a pending speeding conviction. I may well be in that position soon, I won't be as moderate as this if I start a thread asking for help and they turn up.t about it to boot.Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
Heaveho said:
hornetrider said:
You came onto this forum very recently seeking relationship advice and received lots of it. I don't remember anyone having a go at you for your life choices and being a tt about it to boot.
Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
You're wasting your breath, these people live for sticking the knife into others on SPL. t about it to boot.Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
Heaveho said:
hornetrider said:
You came onto this forum very recently seeking relationship advice and received lots of it. I don't remember anyone having a go at you for your life choices and being a tt about it to boot.
Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
You're wasting your breath, these people live for sticking the knife into others on SPL. Hope and pray that all of them with their outlook have to come on asking for advice about a pending speeding conviction. I may well be in that position soon, I won't be as moderate as this if I start a thread asking for help and they turn up.t about it to boot.Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
And an internet hard man to boot.Why don't you start a support group or something.
hornetrider said:
Heaveho said:
hornetrider said:
You came onto this forum very recently seeking relationship advice and received lots of it. I don't remember anyone having a go at you for your life choices and being a tt about it to boot.
Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
You're wasting your breath, these people live for sticking the knife into others on SPL. t about it to boot.Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
You make me laugh.
Good luck OP. I've been on 9 points for about 12 months. Drive about 30k miles per annum for work. Twice was caught at 36 and once at 35 . I need to try and get to June14th for 3 points to drop off. I do honestly still find it difficult to stick to the limits. My office is 90 miles away. Mostly motorway and it does my head in sticking to 70, when pretty much every other car is zooming past. I think I'm a pretty average driver, representative of the majority perhaps. 56 so not a boy racer or a dangerous driver. Might have previously set the cruise control for 80. used to enjoy driving. Not any more. Genuine best wishes but not much to add I'm afraid.
funkyrobot said:
Here we go. And an internet hard man to boot.
Why don't you start a support group or something.
Ah, all the old favourites on show here. Why don't you start a support group if you have so much that's negative to say on a subject every time it rears it's head? And an internet hard man to boot.Why don't you start a support group or something.
Did someone call you a troll earlier? You haven't said one thing either in support of the op, or to help him. Why are you posting? Honestly, what do you get from behaving as you do?
Edited by Heaveho on Friday 28th April 12:43
Despite what some would have us believe it's not about road safety it's about money. Although you are bit of a prat for getting caught so many times in such a short time I will offer a bit of advice other than slow down and keep your eyes peeled.
When you complete the form about how much you earn double it or even triple it and tell them how important your licence is for your job, sick aunt, disabled iguana etc. They will then hammer you with a much bigger fine and a shorter ban. Never seen that approach fail, which confirms my suspicions. Then when you get your licence back slow down before you maim or kill someone because no amount of dosh will get you out of that one.
When you complete the form about how much you earn double it or even triple it and tell them how important your licence is for your job, sick aunt, disabled iguana etc. They will then hammer you with a much bigger fine and a shorter ban. Never seen that approach fail, which confirms my suspicions. Then when you get your licence back slow down before you maim or kill someone because no amount of dosh will get you out of that one.
funkyrobot said:
Anyhow. I would like to ask the OP a question ... As someone who was obviously one offence away from a potential totting up ban, why didn't you drive like an absolute saint and ensure you didn't speed anymore? It's a system that gives you multiple strikes before you are properly penalised. Yet some people choose to keep ignoring things.
Was it obvious to the OP? OP, were you aware of the previous points accrued when you acquired your last 3 points? If not, then the strikes were not able to be actioned and some mitigation might be available.My brother had 6 points on his licence and got caught doing 105 on a 60 dual carriageway.
He didn't use a solicitor as he felt it'd make him look less genuinely remorseful, he went to court with a letter from his employer saying it'd cause them a lot of problems and they might have to consider letting him go if he did get a lengthy ban - he worked for the NHS at the time if it makes a difference but not on the clinical side.
He got given 6 more points (so 12 on his licence) and a note on it to say although he had 12 he could continue to drive on a last chance saloon basis - not the actually wording obviously!!
He also go away with a £350 fine.
I recall he also told the court how very sorry he was and what an idiot he'd been. I think it also helped that he'd only had the car a few weeks and promptly sold it - He told the court it was his first fast car and in light of being so stupid he'd got rid of it - the reality was it was a POS.
I think what probably helped is he was genuinely sorry and he's not the sort of person to feel self entitled. He'd have gone in there truly feeling stupid and regretful and not trying 'beat the system' just get the best outcome he can in that situation - I think the courts see through the chancers.
He didn't use a solicitor as he felt it'd make him look less genuinely remorseful, he went to court with a letter from his employer saying it'd cause them a lot of problems and they might have to consider letting him go if he did get a lengthy ban - he worked for the NHS at the time if it makes a difference but not on the clinical side.
He got given 6 more points (so 12 on his licence) and a note on it to say although he had 12 he could continue to drive on a last chance saloon basis - not the actually wording obviously!!
He also go away with a £350 fine.
I recall he also told the court how very sorry he was and what an idiot he'd been. I think it also helped that he'd only had the car a few weeks and promptly sold it - He told the court it was his first fast car and in light of being so stupid he'd got rid of it - the reality was it was a POS.
I think what probably helped is he was genuinely sorry and he's not the sort of person to feel self entitled. He'd have gone in there truly feeling stupid and regretful and not trying 'beat the system' just get the best outcome he can in that situation - I think the courts see through the chancers.
funkyrobot said:
Heaveho said:
hornetrider said:
You came onto this forum very recently seeking relationship advice and received lots of it. I don't remember anyone having a go at you for your life choices and being a tt about it to boot.
Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
You're wasting your breath, these people live for sticking the knife into others on SPL. Hope and pray that all of them with their outlook have to come on asking for advice about a pending speeding conviction. I may well be in that position soon, I won't be as moderate as this if I start a thread asking for help and they turn up.t about it to boot.Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
And an internet hard man to boot.Why don't you start a support group or something.
It's a shame you decided to come back after you spat your dummy out with your little tantrum at Christmas.
Phil Dicky said:
All im after is cases of PH'ers who have been in my situation and what bans they recieved.....not making excuses, not denying anything and fully admitting Ive been a tt....as I explained in my first post. So please just genuine advice.
Not really sure if a soicitor is the way to go..Im ex Police so used to court and explain mitigation through well enough, dont want to bother solicitors on here just yet, im sure they are busy enough already
9 points here and was due to get another 3 (sp30).t....as I explained in my first post. So please just genuine advice.Not really sure if a soicitor is the way to go..Im ex Police so used to court and explain mitigation through well enough, dont want to bother solicitors on here just yet, im sure they are busy enough already
Edited by Phil Dicky on Friday 28th April 10:40
Edited by Phil Dicky on Friday 28th April 10:42
My mitigating circumstance to avoid 3 points and thus a ban was that my Mother, now deceased, lived 3 hours away and was gravely ill. I visited 3 days a week after work and simply needed my licence as without it, the journey would not be possible.She passed away 3 months after my court date so i was eternally grateful to the Magistrates and wrote them a "Thank you" letter accordingly.
I was given no points, slowed down and had a 14 day ban and a big fine.
Make sure your case is honest and truthful. I saw them dismiss 10+ people in front of me as the "had to drive to see girlfriend" or "loves to drive" is a "new driver and inexperienced"...
Points free for 10 years now!!
Alucidnation said:
funkyrobot said:
Heaveho said:
hornetrider said:
You came onto this forum very recently seeking relationship advice and received lots of it. I don't remember anyone having a go at you for your life choices and being a tt about it to boot.
Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
You're wasting your breath, these people live for sticking the knife into others on SPL. Hope and pray that all of them with their outlook have to come on asking for advice about a pending speeding conviction. I may well be in that position soon, I won't be as moderate as this if I start a thread asking for help and they turn up.t about it to boot.Take a long hard look in the mirror and think about what you're posting.
And an internet hard man to boot.Why don't you start a support group or something.
It's a shame you decided to come back after you spat your dummy out with your little tantrum at Christmas.
Anyway, what are you adding to this thread, apart from showing everyone how you like to stalk me?
I had no intention of adding anything at all to the thread, as I have no credible answer to the OP's question.
Yes, he should have been more careful considering his situation, but to everyone else, it was quite obvious that he knew that anyway and fked up.
What exactly was your helpful contribution?
Oh wait..
And don't flatter yourself.
Yes, he should have been more careful considering his situation, but to everyone else, it was quite obvious that he knew that anyway and f
ked up.What exactly was your helpful contribution?
Oh wait..
And don't flatter yourself.
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