Is it worth fighting this parking charge notice ?
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Boosted LS1 said:
Riley Blue said:
I'd go into the store, show the manager the photo and ask him/her if they'd like you to shop there again.
I'll second that. Might nip it in the bud.The PCN is a process if you circumvent it then you can lose out. The first thing to do is to avoid naming the driver. By contacting the store you may have already done that but I do not expect so. Contacting the store head office its more likely the name will be passed to the PC.
At the moment the best plan is to do nothing.
The next step is likely to be that the PC obtains the keeper details from the DVLA and sends a PCN to her address. Only then should she appeal. Revisit if this happens and some of us can assist.
The reason for waiting is that if the PC company wishes to claim against your sister as keeper the PCN must meet certain standards and I have yet to see one that did.
There are a number of web sites which you can check this on
Fight it. I had a similar incident and appealed. Initially the parking company (who own the first appeal process) refused it (as expected) but then it went to POPLA and the civil enforcement group didn't contest it - so POPLA found in my favour. You can argue that you made reasonable efforts and what you did was in good faith - you stand a very good chance.
Good luck!
Good luck!
andrewrob said:
Photos of receipts is a bit cheeky! I don't keep mine for more than a few days
Even if that's the first time she'd ever shopped there they should be looking after it, any sensible person can see its the parking monitor is a moron.
I dont keep mine but she has to keep hers for the accounts as she shopped there for her business for yearsEven if that's the first time she'd ever shopped there they should be looking after it, any sensible person can see its the parking monitor is a moron.
Mrr T said:
This has to be your (sisters) choice but I would ignore all of the advice above.
The PCN is a process if you circumvent it then you can lose out. The first thing to do is to avoid naming the driver. By contacting the store you may have already done that but I do not expect so. Contacting the store head office its more likely the name will be passed to the PC.
At the moment the best plan is to do nothing.
The next step is likely to be that the PC obtains the keeper details from the DVLA and sends a PCN to her address. Only then should she appeal. Revisit if this happens and some of us can assist.
The reason for waiting is that if the PC company wishes to claim against your sister as keeper the PCN must meet certain standards and I have yet to see one that did.
There are a number of web sites which you can check this on
Thanks for this info, not sure what details she has given yet just waiting to find out. Will let you know when i know more.The PCN is a process if you circumvent it then you can lose out. The first thing to do is to avoid naming the driver. By contacting the store you may have already done that but I do not expect so. Contacting the store head office its more likely the name will be passed to the PC.
At the moment the best plan is to do nothing.
The next step is likely to be that the PC obtains the keeper details from the DVLA and sends a PCN to her address. Only then should she appeal. Revisit if this happens and some of us can assist.
The reason for waiting is that if the PC company wishes to claim against your sister as keeper the PCN must meet certain standards and I have yet to see one that did.
There are a number of web sites which you can check this on
woodsypedia said:
Fight it. I had a similar incident and appealed. Initially the parking company (who own the first appeal process) refused it (as expected) but then it went to POPLA and the civil enforcement group didn't contest it - so POPLA found in my favour. You can argue that you made reasonable efforts and what you did was in good faith - you stand a very good chance.
Good luck!
Good to hear that, She will definately be appealing it and i dont really see how she can lose.Good luck!
turbojay555 said:
Good to hear that, She will definately be appealing it and i dont really see how she can lose.
That photo isn't great Evidence as it doesn't show the car parked on the other side. I would ask EP or check there website some of these people take half a dozen photos of your car.
SebastienClement said:
That photo doesn't show a lot. We're all assuming that the vehicle IS in a designated bay.
Was it? Or is it parked somewhere it shouldn't be?
The car is parked in a normal bay, the pcn says "your vehicle was not parked within a marked bay" the guy who give her the pcn said she was over the line. Was it? Or is it parked somewhere it shouldn't be?
Edit- it's the last parking spot before the loading bay starts, far end of car park. See below it's the bay to the middle left.
Edited by turbojay555 on Thursday 11th May 22:48
Edited by turbojay555 on Thursday 11th May 22:53
Mrr T said:
This has to be your (sisters) choice but I would ignore all of the advice above.
The PCN is a process if you circumvent it then you can lose out. The first thing to do is to avoid naming the driver. By contacting the store you may have already done that but I do not expect so. Contacting the store head office its more likely the name will be passed to the PC.
At the moment the best plan is to do nothing.
The next step is likely to be that the PC obtains the keeper details from the DVLA and sends a PCN to her address. Only then should she appeal. Revisit if this happens and some of us can assist.
The reason for waiting is that if the PC company wishes to claim against your sister as keeper the PCN must meet certain standards and I have yet to see one that did.
There are a number of web sites which you can check this on
Right, quick update, too late on doing nothing as she has emailed everything to the woman she spoke to at head office. The PCN is a process if you circumvent it then you can lose out. The first thing to do is to avoid naming the driver. By contacting the store you may have already done that but I do not expect so. Contacting the store head office its more likely the name will be passed to the PC.
At the moment the best plan is to do nothing.
The next step is likely to be that the PC obtains the keeper details from the DVLA and sends a PCN to her address. Only then should she appeal. Revisit if this happens and some of us can assist.
The reason for waiting is that if the PC company wishes to claim against your sister as keeper the PCN must meet certain standards and I have yet to see one that did.
There are a number of web sites which you can check this on
The lady said she can see that it's petty and wants to sort it out straight away as she doesn't want to lose her business and she can get it cancelled immediately without going through the appeals process.
Whether she can or not I don't know, So it's just a matter of hearing back from her.
turbojay555 said:
Mrr T said:
This has to be your (sisters) choice but I would ignore all of the advice above.
The PCN is a process if you circumvent it then you can lose out. The first thing to do is to avoid naming the driver. By contacting the store you may have already done that but I do not expect so. Contacting the store head office its more likely the name will be passed to the PC.
At the moment the best plan is to do nothing.
The next step is likely to be that the PC obtains the keeper details from the DVLA and sends a PCN to her address. Only then should she appeal. Revisit if this happens and some of us can assist.
The reason for waiting is that if the PC company wishes to claim against your sister as keeper the PCN must meet certain standards and I have yet to see one that did.
There are a number of web sites which you can check this on
Right, quick update, too late on doing nothing as she has emailed everything to the woman she spoke to at head office. The PCN is a process if you circumvent it then you can lose out. The first thing to do is to avoid naming the driver. By contacting the store you may have already done that but I do not expect so. Contacting the store head office its more likely the name will be passed to the PC.
At the moment the best plan is to do nothing.
The next step is likely to be that the PC obtains the keeper details from the DVLA and sends a PCN to her address. Only then should she appeal. Revisit if this happens and some of us can assist.
The reason for waiting is that if the PC company wishes to claim against your sister as keeper the PCN must meet certain standards and I have yet to see one that did.
There are a number of web sites which you can check this on
The lady said she can see that it's petty and wants to sort it out straight away as she doesn't want to lose her business and she can get it cancelled immediately without going through the appeals process.
Whether she can or not I don't know, So it's just a matter of hearing back from her.
Then wait and see what happens. Some PC contracts do not allow the other party to agree cancellation and some PC just ignore such requests. Post again if she get anything else.
Also I know it’s a long time but if she hears nothing from the PC and moves within the next 6 years she should inform the PC of the change of address. Some PC have got CCJ against people because they have moved and not received the court papers. This can be expensive to unwind.
What next FFS, stepping on the cracks in the pavement?
Law enforcement UK seems to becoming more about 'compliance' usually to petty rules than actual wrong-doing, trouble is we're making more and more of these bottom-inspectors and people accepting this level of petty scamming as normal.
Law enforcement UK seems to becoming more about 'compliance' usually to petty rules than actual wrong-doing, trouble is we're making more and more of these bottom-inspectors and people accepting this level of petty scamming as normal.
turbojay555 said:
Good to hear that, She will definately be appealing it and i dont really see how she can lose.
Pictures! 
Oh, sorry, just noticed, different sort of appealing!
Hope it is sorted in her favour, and head office have words with the parking pirates over their degree of pettyness!
Mrr T said:
OK. I assume the response from HO was by email with a name? In which case make sure she keeps the mails. If the response was by phone, email, or even better write, to the company confirming they have agreed to cancel the ticket.
Then wait and see what happens. Some PC contracts do not allow the other party to agree cancellation and some PC just ignore such requests. Post again if she get anything else.
Also I know it’s a long time but if she hears nothing from the PC and moves within the next 6 years she should inform the PC of the change of address. Some PC have got CCJ against people because they have moved and not received the court papers. This can be expensive to unwind.
Thanks for your info and help on this, it was email and phone i believe, just a case of hearing back now. Then wait and see what happens. Some PC contracts do not allow the other party to agree cancellation and some PC just ignore such requests. Post again if she get anything else.
Also I know it’s a long time but if she hears nothing from the PC and moves within the next 6 years she should inform the PC of the change of address. Some PC have got CCJ against people because they have moved and not received the court papers. This can be expensive to unwind.
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