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anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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My dad died about 29 years ago abroad on holiday in Greece. My mum needs a death certificate to claim a small sum that has been found in a defunct bank account.
The problem is she has lost the certificates so i am trying to get a replacement.

i found a letter from the corners office indicating there were opening an inquest in the uk, so I wrote to them, but they advised they don't have it.

i also have no reference number to get a copy so a bit stumped.
Surely the coroners office issue the certificates after inquest?

Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 20th May 21:49

CAPP0

19,583 posts

203 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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If you know where the death was originally registered, you used to be able to go to that register office and just buy a copy. My mother died when I was 2 and nobody would ever talk about her death, so when I was about 30 I went to the register office and just purchased a copy of her death cert just so I could see what she died of frown

I don't know whether the same is still true. Oddly enough I'm just in the process of trying to register my Dad's death, from 3 weeks ago, but the coroner is involved and it's really not very simple at all.

psi310398

9,088 posts

203 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Try the GRO (General Registry Office?) website.

I needed a copy of my consular birth certificate (UK national born abroad) and they were able to send one on the basis of my date and place of birth. I think most recent (i.e. since WWII) records are now digitised - IIRC as part of preparations for the aborted Identity Card scheme to prevent Day of the Jackal type passport/ID procurement.

HTH

Peter

grumpy52

5,584 posts

166 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Find the local births deaths and marriage offices for the county he died in .
They will give you details on how to proceed .

Dogwatch

6,229 posts

222 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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grumpy52 said:
Find the local births deaths and marriage offices for the county he died in .
They will give you details on how to proceed .
OP says he died in Greece.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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yes Greece, skiathos ,i checked with my mum she thinks it was a uk one which makes sense.

i have the Coroner;s inquest letter, this is the county i have contacted who have no record, it was south staffs fyi.

the problem is the GRO website asks for a reference number, but i searched for one using the family tree website but can't find anything. that is why i am a bit stumped. i would drive up to the place if i knew where to look, is there a central repository?

imagineifyeswill

1,226 posts

166 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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I know its a long way round but have you tried one of the Genealogy sites which lets you access GRO records and pay for downloads of birth, marriage and death certificates.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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imagineifyeswill said:
I know its a long way round but have you tried one of the Genealogy sites which lets you access GRO records and pay for downloads of birth, marriage and death certificates.
yes tried that couldn't find any records

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Call the Greek embassy and ask their advice?

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
My dad died about 29 years ago abroad on holiday in Greece. My mum needs a death certificate to claim a small sum that has been found in a defunct bank account.
The problem is she has lost the certificates so i am trying to get a replacement.

i found a letter from the corners office indicating there were opening an inquest in the uk, so I wrote to them, but they advised they don't have it.

i also have no reference number to get a copy so a bit stumped.
Surely the coroners office issue the certificates after inquest?

Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 20th May 21:49
Why hasn't this money been claimed by the government using the dormant account legislation?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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Gavia said:
Why hasn't this money been claimed by the government using the dormant account legislation?
don't know shall i ask them?.rolleyes

Heres Johnny

7,228 posts

124 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage...

Unless the death was registered abroad, they should have a record.

CAPP0

19,583 posts

203 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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Gavia said:
The Spruce goose said:
My dad died about 29 years ago abroad on holiday in Greece. My mum needs a death certificate to claim a small sum that has been found in a defunct bank account.
The problem is she has lost the certificates so i am trying to get a replacement.

i found a letter from the corners office indicating there were opening an inquest in the uk, so I wrote to them, but they advised they don't have it.

i also have no reference number to get a copy so a bit stumped.
Surely the coroners office issue the certificates after inquest?

Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 20th May 21:49
Why hasn't this money been claimed by the government using the dormant account legislation?
Why do you want to know? Don't you have enough other trivial threads to poke your nose into unnecessarily today without interfering with one which may actually have some sensitive aspects for the OP?

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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CAPP0 said:
Why do you want to know? Don't you have enough other trivial threads to poke your nose into unnecessarily today without interfering with one which may actually have some sensitive aspects for the OP?
Well I thought it was a fair question. It's hardly going to be sensitive when someone died nearly three decades ago.

Not sure why you've got all upset over it.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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Gavia said:
Well I thought it was a fair question. It's hardly going to be sensitive when someone died nearly three decades ago.

Not sure why you've got all upset over it.
haven't a clue to your question, but a quick google, maybe it is i haven't a clue the bank have written to my mum.

'Customers can still reclaim money in dormant bank accounts even if the money has been redistributed under the Dormant Bank Account Act.''

http://www.unclaimedfinances.co.uk/facts-dormant-b...


Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
haven't a clue to your question, but a quick google, maybe it is i haven't a clue the bank have written to my mum.

'Customers can still reclaim money in dormant bank accounts even if the money has been redistributed under the Dormant Bank Account Act.''

http://www.unclaimedfinances.co.uk/facts-dormant-b...
That's what I was asking. I was interested as to whether you'd discovered the account or the bank was being proactive prior to handing the money over. If they've written to your mum do they already know that your dad died a long time ago? If so, then they might not need the death certificate this time around. They may have just sent a standard template letter.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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Gavia said:
That's what I was asking. I was interested as to whether you'd discovered the account or the bank was being proactive prior to handing the money over. If they've written to your mum do they already know that your dad died a long time ago? If so, then they might not need the death certificate this time around. They may have just sent a standard template letter.
it was originally a credit union account, this was bought out sometime and ended up as the bank now. i don't know the issue but just requested a death certificate to release the monies to me mum.

Hol

8,412 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Trying to be helpful here>>

[Assumption is that death was in Greece, but your father was UK resident at the time).

But when banks and share registration companies pay out money for deceased people they usually require the Sealed Grant of Probate document, rather than the death certification.


The death cert, literally states the details of the death.

The probate, states the details of the executors, who are henceforth legally authorised to sign on the deceased's behalf.


To get a probate, you would have needed a copy death certificate (and a copy of the will if it existed). The 'Probates Office should be able to provide a copy of both.