Physically assaulted by neighbour last night, advice please
Discussion
Andehh said:
There's another side to this story. Especially when OP has come across quite as nasty & vindictive as he is....
For example, if you are some over weight, disabled bloke (benefit of the doubt....) who comes outside to find some random thug threatening your wife, on your lawn, ranting about some mouse being thrown at him, suddenly a lawn ornament to defend yourself with doesn't seem like a massive leap of faith?
The iron bar the difference though. That can take it from pushing someone off your property with a few stern words, to a GBH/Assault with a deadly weapon charge? Get up in someones face, push them off your property, understandable. Swing at someones head with a metal pole when they haven't actually physically touched you or your wife yet, is indeed, a massive leap. For example, if you are some over weight, disabled bloke (benefit of the doubt....) who comes outside to find some random thug threatening your wife, on your lawn, ranting about some mouse being thrown at him, suddenly a lawn ornament to defend yourself with doesn't seem like a massive leap of faith?
Andehh said:
There's another side to this story. Especially when OP has come across quite as nasty & vindictive as he is....
For example, if you are some over weight, disabled bloke (benefit of the doubt....) who comes outside to find some random thug threatening your wife, on your lawn, ranting about some mouse being thrown at him, suddenly a lawn ornament to defend yourself with doesn't seem like a massive leap of faith?
Exactly what I've been thinking.For example, if you are some over weight, disabled bloke (benefit of the doubt....) who comes outside to find some random thug threatening your wife, on your lawn, ranting about some mouse being thrown at him, suddenly a lawn ornament to defend yourself with doesn't seem like a massive leap of faith?
Add to this that the mouse could've been dropped by a Sparrow Hawk or something.
So now you're in your garden on a nice day, perhaps have enjoyed a cold beer and a jazz cigarette and suddenly there's an angry person in your garden threatening the missus about throwing a mouse.
Two sides to every story.
The iron bar is probably nothing like what happened. Who has an iron bar laying around their garden? And even if it he did have one and picked it up, did he really use it? And you seemed adept at ducking it. If you poke somebody hard enough, and enough times, that's what some people do. If he'd gone round the OPs house with an iron bar I would have sympathy.
Farmers around here (I back on to one) are not allowed to have fires.. so there's another dubious excuse.
I think there is increasing embellishment here to try to justify the OPs position. .
Farmers around here (I back on to one) are not allowed to have fires.. so there's another dubious excuse.
I think there is increasing embellishment here to try to justify the OPs position. .
Jonno02 said:
Andehh said:
There's another side to this story. Especially when OP has come across quite as nasty & vindictive as he is....
For example, if you are some over weight, disabled bloke (benefit of the doubt....) who comes outside to find some random thug threatening your wife, on your lawn, ranting about some mouse being thrown at him, suddenly a lawn ornament to defend yourself with doesn't seem like a massive leap of faith?
The iron bar the difference though. That can take it from pushing someone off your property with a few stern words, to a GBH/Assault with a deadly weapon charge? Get up in someones face, push them off your property, understandable. Swing at someones head with a metal pole when they haven't actually physically touched you or your wife yet, is indeed, a massive leap. For example, if you are some over weight, disabled bloke (benefit of the doubt....) who comes outside to find some random thug threatening your wife, on your lawn, ranting about some mouse being thrown at him, suddenly a lawn ornament to defend yourself with doesn't seem like a massive leap of faith?
edit: Note; this is not your ''out with blokes, get in fight, go for a weapon'' scenario, only a self defence/defending your family one.
Edited by Andehh on Wednesday 24th May 10:59
markbigears said:
Just to put other pistonheaders in the frame, this is a working farm, tractors, combine harvesters, farmer had a chain saw going at 8am, bonfires from the farmer that rival any guy fawks display, fork lifts, etc. It's not just me being a antisocial git, this how it is, I like the set up and except it, like other neighbours around the village. Oh and plenty have fire pits, I actually bought one after going around to my neighbours at the back of us who have one. The smoke doesn't bother me, I like it, reminds me of being a kid with my father, like wise the sound of mowers.
We have a large garden with pine trees and you need petrol equipment to work it.
So you like the country lad set-up but are worried about a dead mouse in your garden....We have a large garden with pine trees and you need petrol equipment to work it.
Being threatened with an iron bar is not on..... but moaning about a dead mouse....
Heres Johnny said:
Farmers around here (I back on to one) are not allowed to have fires.. so there's another dubious excuse.
Farmers by me are, must vary on local authority. Ultimately, nobody knows the situation. The people sound undesirable and the OP sounds like he likes antagonising. But I doubt the OP would involve the old bill if the neighbour hadn't taken a swing at him with a weapon. Doubtful anything will happen either way. Although, I wouldn't have gone to a neighbours door for a dead mouse.
Beginning to sound more like a disabled, overweight, pot smoking, chillaxed neighbour was defending his wife and property from a neighbouring bully and, being unable to fight, picked up something more out of the fear than anything else.
Of course there are two sides to every story and it may just be that the OP is not very good at getting his side across in an even-handed way.
Of course there are two sides to every story and it may just be that the OP is not very good at getting his side across in an even-handed way.
Have to say, I still can't work out what the neighbour has ACTUALLY DONE.
1. was the dead mouse thrown over deliberately - and what evidence do you have? 2. is this the only incident of anti-social behaviour from the neighbour?
Being labelled a 'chav' or a 'toff' is not enough in my opinion to warrant an accusation of anti-social behaviour. Let's have some more facts ..
1. was the dead mouse thrown over deliberately - and what evidence do you have? 2. is this the only incident of anti-social behaviour from the neighbour?
Being labelled a 'chav' or a 'toff' is not enough in my opinion to warrant an accusation of anti-social behaviour. Let's have some more facts ..
I'm lost, I read the first post and had sympathy
I then read your second long post and thought you are as bad as each other
I mean you don't even live near each other, sounds like you have large garden and he is at the end behind a big fence and some large trees!!
It also sounds like you have been passively aggressively winding him and his wife up for years, he then snapped and you went crying to the police. I mean why should they have to waste time dealing with petty neighbourhood squabbles . OK he used an "iron bar" but blimey that's what happens if you wind people up they usually snap after a while!!
Personally you and your neighbour sound like you need to grow up and you need to stop spending money and time on things that will wind him up "playing the long game" .
You also sound quite judgemental of their lifestyle and money
I then read your second long post and thought you are as bad as each other
I mean you don't even live near each other, sounds like you have large garden and he is at the end behind a big fence and some large trees!!
It also sounds like you have been passively aggressively winding him and his wife up for years, he then snapped and you went crying to the police. I mean why should they have to waste time dealing with petty neighbourhood squabbles . OK he used an "iron bar" but blimey that's what happens if you wind people up they usually snap after a while!!
Personally you and your neighbour sound like you need to grow up and you need to stop spending money and time on things that will wind him up "playing the long game" .
You also sound quite judgemental of their lifestyle and money
Having had a moron living in an adjacent property in the past, I have a measure of sympathy for the OP.
In my case he introduced himself by climbing the wall to my garden to retrieve his kids football (and as it later turned out some of my kids balls too). No apology, no acknowledgement, just a blank eyed stare and a sneer.
He's gone now....
In my case he introduced himself by climbing the wall to my garden to retrieve his kids football (and as it later turned out some of my kids balls too). No apology, no acknowledgement, just a blank eyed stare and a sneer.
He's gone now....
Without wanting to sound overly defeatist/pessimistic, I deal with people all day every day in my job.
Understand that they do not operate on the same level of morality as the rest of us. In many cases they simply do not fear or respect the police and judiciary , and in some cases being detained at Her Majesty s pleasure is a mere inconvenience.
They will retaliate, roping in their equally scummy and immoral friends to make your life an increasing misery.
With regards to the Police, I wouldn't hold out much hope, as they are overstretched and underesourced and your case will be not be seen as a priority.
The response you received is about as good as it is going to get, I'm afraid.
Best of luck OP.
Understand that they do not operate on the same level of morality as the rest of us. In many cases they simply do not fear or respect the police and judiciary , and in some cases being detained at Her Majesty s pleasure is a mere inconvenience.
They will retaliate, roping in their equally scummy and immoral friends to make your life an increasing misery.
With regards to the Police, I wouldn't hold out much hope, as they are overstretched and underesourced and your case will be not be seen as a priority.
The response you received is about as good as it is going to get, I'm afraid.
Best of luck OP.
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