7.5 ton weight limits

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Saleen836

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11,121 posts

210 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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Apart from the obvious, what are the restrictions/exclusions for the above?
have had a look online but couldn't find anything, the road I live on is a 7.5 ton weight limit and gets very narrow with cars parking along one side with a bottle neck approx 50 yards further past my house, yesterday I took a photo of a 40ft articulated lorry driving along the road past my house, took a photo and emailed the company, this is the reply I received...

Our vehicle was delivering to ******** Maltings, and therefore had legitimate business in ******** Road. We call there virtually everyday and have done for the past 6 or 7 years. The vehicle is plated for 31 tonnes gross operation, and is pulling an Urban trailer which has rear steering for use in such places as **********.


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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Talk to your council, they will be able to tell you why the weight limit is in place.

If it's to protect a weak structure then (as far as I know) there are no exemptions and it's an absolute ban. However, if it's in place just to stop large vehicles using a tricky or tight road there are exemptions for deliveries - from the response of the company it sounds like that's the case.

Check with your council, they're best placed to advise.

Type R Tom

3,889 posts

150 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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I'm willing to bet it will be an environmental weight limit with "accept for access" (post a streetview) meaning exactly that, vehicles that need to use it can.

The Council can issue tickets but if the lorry can produce evidence (delivery note for example) that he needs to get there it will be cancelled, they are designed to stop rat running by lorries. After all I bet you want you bins emptied, washing machine delivered or moving lorry to access your road.

Bluetoo

83 posts

184 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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7.5t weigh limit, firstly, depends on signage, if just a red circle with 7.5t within, then so long as the vehicle + whatever is carrying does not weigh more then 7.5t then it is 'technically allowed. If it states 7.5t mgw, mpw or gvw or such then it relates to the 'plated' weight of the vehicle . However if it has a white rectangle with exclusions, perhaps 'except for access' then that allows a heavier vehicle if it has a planned delivery or collection within the restricted area (cannot use it as a rat run or such.

The weight limit can be due to weak infrastructure, bridge or sewer or such but often it is just to bar vehicles of a size using a route, which makes little sense as some 7.5tonners can be as big or bigger than some 18t trucks. Size (width) limit would be a better solution but harder to enforce as DVLA records will not have the record of the dimensions against the registration etc and putting physical barriers in place can cause issues for Fire and municipal services etc.
Last big problem is the simple application of common sense of the software behind the steering wheel who does not always join the dots the weight limit might mean the access is restricted/too small for what he/she is driving

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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Bluetoo said:
Size (width) limit would be a better solution but harder to enforce as DVLA records will not have the record of the dimensions against the registration etc and putting physical barriers in place can cause issues for Fire and municipal services etc.
7.5t are rarely significantly narrower than bigger vehicles anyway - remember, there's a maximum width for any vehicles of 2.55m.

gus607

921 posts

137 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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Except for Access is to look out for. If you were having a concrete delivery or some other heavy objects delivered would yo object then ?

SVTRick

3,633 posts

196 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
7.5t are rarely significantly narrower than bigger vehicles anyway - remember, there's a maximum width for any vehicles of 2.55m.
How do you work that out?
Steel shipping containers I have ( fitted with large generators or pumps ) are 10ft wide (3.05m)
Some of the big mobile cranes and plant / equipment on low loaders & step frames in excess of that.

Box body on my 12 ton work unit 9ft 2-1/2" (2.5m) which was the same as the 7.5 tonner it replaced.



Adrian E

3,248 posts

177 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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SVTRick said:
How do you work that out?
Steel shipping containers I have ( fitted with large generators or pumps ) are 10ft wide (3.05m)
Some of the big mobile cranes and plant / equipment on low loaders & step frames in excess of that.
That's the load, not the vehicle. Different rules apply, depending on the nature of the overhang to side or rear

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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SVTRick said:
TooMany2cvs said:
7.5t are rarely significantly narrower than bigger vehicles anyway - remember, there's a maximum width for any vehicles of 2.55m.
How do you work that out?
Because it is.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/moving-goods-by-road

Perhaps I was a bit sweeping - maximum width for a standard vehicle, without falling under other regs.

SVTRick said:
Steel shipping containers I have ( fitted with large generators or pumps ) are 10ft wide (3.05m)
Standard width for yer bog standard intermodal ISO container is 8' wide, or 2.438m in real numbers.

SVTRick said:
Some of the big mobile cranes and plant / equipment on low loaders & step frames in excess of that.
Sure. But that puts them into special vehicle rules.
2.9m+ = "Abnormal load" = https://www.gov.uk/esdal-and-abnormal-loads/abnorm...

SVTRick said:
Box body on my 12 ton work unit 9ft 2-1/2" (2.5m) which was the same as the 7.5 tonner it replaced.
There y'go, then.

KevinCamaroSS

11,641 posts

281 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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SVTRick said:
How do you work that out?
Steel shipping containers I have ( fitted with large generators or pumps ) are 10ft wide (3.05m)
Some of the big mobile cranes and plant / equipment on low loaders & step frames in excess of that.

Box body on my 12 ton work unit 9ft 2-1/2" (2.5m) which was the same as the 7.5 tonner it replaced.
Apparently a standard 48' container is 2.59m wide, and a standard ISO container is 2.44m, 2M2CVs is correct.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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SVTRick said:
TooMany2cvs said:
7.5t are rarely significantly narrower than bigger vehicles anyway - remember, there's a maximum width for any vehicles of 2.55m.
How do you work that out?
Steel shipping containers I have ( fitted with large generators or pumps ) are 10ft wide (3.05m)
Some of the big mobile cranes and plant / equipment on low loaders & step frames in excess of that.

Box body on my 12 ton work unit 9ft 2-1/2" (2.5m) which was the same as the 7.5 tonner it replaced.
From various transport legislation sites:

"Standard ISO shipping containers are 8ft (2.43m) wide, 8.5ft (2.59m) high and come in two lengths; 20ft (6.06m) and 40ft (12.2m). Extra tall shipping containers called high-cube containers are available at 9.5ft (2.89m) high"

"The maximum individual truck length is 12 metres, articulated truck and trailer length is 16.5 metres and road trains are allowed up to 18.75 metres. The maximum width for all is 2.55 metres."

SVTRick

3,633 posts

196 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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REALIST123 said:
From various transport legislation sites:

"Standard ISO shipping containers are 8ft (2.43m) wide, 8.5ft (2.59m) high and come in two lengths; 20ft (6.06m) and 40ft (12.2m). Extra tall shipping containers called high-cube containers are available at 9.5ft (2.89m) high"

"The maximum individual truck length is 12 metres, articulated truck and trailer length is 16.5 metres and road trains are allowed up to 18.75 metres. The maximum width for all is 2.55 metres."
It's all listed here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/special...

Our containers are 3.05m and transported on a regular basis to site all over the Thames Valley

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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SVTRick said:
It's all listed here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/special...

Our containers are 3.05m and transported on a regular basis to site all over the Thames Valley
There's a clue in the title of the doc. "Special types". The doc tells you what notice you need to give the police for over-width loads, amongst other exceptions to normal traffic rules.

Special Types Enforcement Guide said:
5.2 - Over width projections

  • vehicle with load width of 3 metres or less, but width of load projecting at one side exceeds 305 millimetres: 2 days notice to police
So that's loads <3m total, but overhanging the normal 2.55m wide vehicle by 305mm or more on one side...

grumpy52

5,598 posts

167 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Parts of London are a nightmare for weight limits ,many are to restrict the size in more urban areas ,more and more are to stop commercial traffic during non business hours ,others operate from midnight to 6,7 or 8 am ,some limits are as low as 5T .
They don't appear to apply to buses or coaches .