Tyre damage

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NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,289 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Having an expensive month, and whilst doing some brake work noticed that one of my front tyres has a nasty gash in the sidewall. Annoying as the fronts have 7mm on them.





On further inspection, it's in the rim protector, so it's probably OK but doesn't sit that easy with me as it's the family car and we'll be using it for the family holiday this year (if I get the brakes done in time!).

Anyway, as the other side is fine and 7-8mm, I was just going to replace the one tyre, but I notice that it has been superseded - it's a Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2, but it has been replaced by 3. Are they similar enough to go across axles OK? I did similar on my wife's Qashqai when she picked up a puncture and the RainExpert2 and been changed to a 3 - didn't notice until it was fitted, but looked similar enough. Has been fine.

So:

Replace tyre?
If yes, OK to have a new tyre and a 7-8mm on the same axle?
If yes, OK to mix old and new versions?

stewies_minion

1,166 posts

187 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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I'd be equally concerned by the wheel kerbing. Made me wince.

Appreciate that isn't wildly helpful..

NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,289 posts

251 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Bought the car 6 months ago, wheels came pre-kerbed I'm afraid. Doesn't help that the tree on the pavement in front of our house has pushed out the kerbstones which is I suspect how the damage to the tyre happened (it has also destroyed the pavement and is affecting our garden but that's another story...).

So yes, but I wouldn't bother getting the wheels refurbed as they are the worst wheels I have ever had to try and keep clean anyway (BMW MV2s) and will likely replace them with something else from BMW in 17/18" flavour in due course.

briang9

3,279 posts

160 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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stewies_minion said:
I'd be equally concerned by the wheel kerbing. Made me wince.

Appreciate that isn't wildly helpful..
+1

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ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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when i end up with a cut like that out of the rim protector i use a bit of rubber cement or similar adhesive to stick it back together.
Stops it getting any worse and helps deal with any enterprising police officer or MOT inspector with a quota to fill trying to declare it illegal

If you have any damage which has affected the structure of the sidewall you would normally get a bulge and the tyre doesn't last very long

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

241 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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There's a surfeit of rubber there for this very reason. If no cords are visible behind the flap of rubber (which I doubt given the entry wound) forget about it and carry on with your day.

Keep an eye on the area over the next few days to see if any bulges occur if you wish to be cautious.

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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You could be cheeky and opt to buy a new pair of tyres for your car, then sell the old pair as part worn... it's staggering what some will pay for second hand tyres.

Depending on how cheeky you are you could superglue the damaged area to make it less obvious...

V8RX7

26,862 posts

263 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Frances The Mute said:
There's a surfeit of rubber there for this very reason. If no cords are visible behind the flap of rubber (which I doubt given the entry wound) forget about it and carry on with your day.
^^^This

But I'd cut one end so I could open the flap to fully check.


NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,289 posts

251 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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As an add on to this, I am thinking I will replace - but it seems that Goodyear have replaced the Eagle F1 Assymetric 2 with the 3 - same load rating etc., but am I OK to mix on the same axle? I don't want to shell out for 2 tyres really...

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Honestly, that tyre will be fine on the provision that no chords are visible.

As others have said, it's designed with extra rubber there to take an element of impact in this situation. I'd use it as normal, it'll be fine smile

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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i would not mix tyres on an axle.

See if you can find a part worn online if you want to save money. Or do as others have said and some rubber glue to stop it getting worse

HustleRussell

24,700 posts

160 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Flesh wound, do not replace the tyre. Tyres are expensive and recycling discarded ones is an environmental issue.

corozin

2,680 posts

271 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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HustleRussell said:
Flesh wound, do not replace the tyre. Tyres are expensive and recycling discarded ones is an environmental issue.
Somehow I suspect the Police would have a slightly different opinion to yours. The OP is absolutely right to be looking to replace that one, and especially since rolling up kerbs seems to be a regular occurrance.

HustleRussell

24,700 posts

160 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Sorry but I wholly disagree. The damage is purely cosmetic. What we are seeing here is the rim flange protector doing its job. Plod, even if there were any, and even if they did have time to randomly check tyres for cuts, would not be interested in the slightest in that cut. To replace the tyre would simply be an unnecessary waste of time, materials and money.

russell_ram

321 posts

231 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Not an issue - MOT pass as long as no cords are showing.

V8RX7

26,862 posts

263 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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corozin said:
HustleRussell said:
Flesh wound, do not replace the tyre. Tyres are expensive and recycling discarded ones is an environmental issue.
Somehow I suspect the Police would have a slightly different opinion to yours. .
If they did then they would be wrong

Oilchange

8,462 posts

260 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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I'd superglue it. Works well with rubber and as said as long as no chords are visible you would be wasting time and money replacing it bearing in mind the alloys are almost completely mullered!



Edited by Oilchange on Monday 24th July 18:11

pim

2,344 posts

124 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Replace the tyre and don't mess about with superglue.

Your family is more important.

HustleRussell

24,700 posts

160 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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pim said:
Replace the tyre
Why though? In what way is the tyre compromised? What mode of failure do you suppose that cut will cause?

Captain Smerc

3,021 posts

116 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Top grinding ! What's the other 3 like ?