Spare Key

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Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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I think it's obvious the key is never going to arrive so just stump up and pay for a new one yourself, and get on with your life.

Mexman

2,442 posts

85 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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As per usual, its all the dealers fault blah, blah, blah.
Ever though just for a moment, that upon appraising the vehicle in part exchange, the salesman asked the customer 'how many keys do you have?'
Customer...Errr I have 2.
Handover day arrives..customer hands over 1 key.
Salesman....Err where's the other key?
Customer...Oh its in the underwear drawer upstairs, I will drop it in tomorrow..
Guess what, nothing, customer is in his nice shiny new car with two keys and can't give a flying fk about dropping the spare key in.
Salesman rings customer numerous times but as per usual, they flick him to voice mail.
Hence it is now the customer who is on radio silence.
But, no,... it's the dealers fault, not the lying, mouth breather of a customer who's now possibly cost the dealer two hundred quid for a spare key , when there probably wasn't two hundred quid profit in the deal in the first place.

NC92

12 posts

93 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Mexman said:
As per usual, its all the dealers fault blah, blah, blah.
Ever though just for a moment, that upon appraising the vehicle in part exchange, the salesman asked the customer 'how many keys do you have?'
Customer...Errr I have 2.
Handover day arrives..customer hands over 1 key.
Salesman....Err where's the other key?
Customer...Oh its in the underwear drawer upstairs, I will drop it in tomorrow..
Guess what, nothing, customer is in his nice shiny new car with two keys and can't give a flying fk about dropping the spare key in.
Salesman rings customer numerous times but as per usual, they flick him to voice mail.
Hence it is now the customer who is on radio silence.
But, no,... it's the dealers fault, not the lying, mouth breather of a customer who's now possibly cost the dealer two hundred quid for a spare key , when there probably wasn't two hundred quid profit in the deal in the first place.
What's that got to do with the OPs situation? If the car was advertised with 2 keys it's the dealers responsibility to put it right and sort him out with a second key.

Edited by Doverben on Monday 24th July 21:06

Mexman

2,442 posts

85 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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And he will, when the previous owner forwards the key on.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Mexman said:
And he will, when the previous owner forwards the key on.
Using your logic then, if was buying a car and someone owed me money, the dealer should let me take the car as "I'll drop off the money as soon as I get paid.". Fair?

The thing is, the dealer advertised the car with 2 keys so it should have 2 keys. Where the other key is and who might or might not have it, is completely irrelevant. The dealer owes the OP a key - either the original key or a replacement. And then the dealer can learn a lesson about making sure the advert is correct.

I'm not a dealer basher, but if that's what was advertised then they should stand by that. I've bought a car in the past advertised as "removable towbar". It was one of the reasons I bought the car, yet when I picked the car up, there was no sign of the towbar. The dealer tried for a couple of weeks to get hold of the previous owner to see if he had it, but no joy. The dealer then coughed up just under £200 for a new Witter bar - because that's what a proper dealer should do.


Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

84 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Carshop ?

TheTwitcher

161 posts

89 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Mexman said:
As per usual, its all the dealers fault blah, blah, blah.
Ever though just for a moment, that upon appraising the vehicle in part exchange, the salesman asked the customer 'how many keys do you have?'
Customer...Errr I have 2.
Handover day arrives..customer hands over 1 key.
Salesman....Err where's the other key?
Customer...Oh its in the underwear drawer upstairs, I will drop it in tomorrow..
Guess what, nothing, customer is in his nice shiny new car with two keys and can't give a flying fk about dropping the spare key in.
Salesman rings customer numerous times but as per usual, they flick him to voice mail.
Hence it is now the customer who is on radio silence.
But, no,... it's the dealers fault, not the lying, mouth breather of a customer who's now possibly cost the dealer two hundred quid for a spare key , when there probably wasn't two hundred quid profit in the deal in the first place.
It's odd, isn't it, that somehow car dealership businesses manage to continue despite their unprofitability?

giblets_

Original Poster:

283 posts

112 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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So, emailed the branch manager this morning with attachments of the conversation Ive had with the salesman. I've given them a week to get the Key posted to me and if it's not delivered to me by Wednesday next week I will take a formal stance and send a Letter by post etc.


cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

119 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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giblets_ said:
So, emailed the branch manager this morning with attachments of the conversation Ive had with the salesman. I've given them a week to get the Key posted to me and if it's not delivered to me by Wednesday next week I will take a formal stance and send a Letter by post etc.
So you ask everyones advice, and end up doing your own thing anyway? Should have saved yourself some key strokes! wink

giblets_

Original Poster:

283 posts

112 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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cbmotorsport said:
So you ask everyones advice, and end up doing your own thing anyway? Should have saved yourself some key strokes! wink
No not at all - I called up the branch head office to find the correct address to send the letter to (They have 4 different ones) and i was told to email the manager to resolve. I mentioned that if it isn't resolved this way, then I will follow the advice given on this thread.

I'm not one of "those" posters, promise.

KevinCamaroSS

11,641 posts

281 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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I am surprised nobody else has commented on the fact that somebody out there has a key to the OPs car, could come and steal it with no problem.

Key in the post - Absolutely a no for me, car key going through the post to the address the car is kept at? Stupidity.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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northwest monkey said:
Mexman said:
And he will, when the previous owner forwards the key on.
Using your logic then, if was buying a car and someone owed me money, the dealer should let me take the car as "I'll drop off the money as soon as I get paid.". Fair?

The thing is, the dealer advertised the car with 2 keys so it should have 2 keys. Where the other key is and who might or might not have it, is completely irrelevant. The dealer owes the OP a key - either the original key or a replacement. And then the dealer can learn a lesson about making sure the advert is correct.

I'm not a dealer basher, but if that's what was advertised then they should stand by that. I've bought a car in the past advertised as "removable towbar". It was one of the reasons I bought the car, yet when I picked the car up, there was no sign of the towbar. The dealer tried for a couple of weeks to get hold of the previous owner to see if he had it, but no joy. The dealer then coughed up just under £200 for a new Witter bar - because that's what a proper dealer should do.
This. I do feel sorry for dealer if they have fallen for the 'I'll drop it off in the week mate' excuse. BUT if I were a dealer with that dilemma I'd be happy to say, very politely, "and I'll give you the scone key to your new car/£200 that I'll have to hold back when you do".

There are many straight buyers, sellers and traders, but there are also more than enough who will try it on on all sides so just treat each other fairly. Trust, but verify.

Monkeylegend

26,471 posts

232 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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The last key I ordered had to be delivered to the dealer, I then had to take the car in and they coded it into the car before it would work. They also deactivated the lost key as well which is a sensible precaution under the circumstances. Just popping a new key into the post wasn't an option that would work.

If the dealer hasn't got the original to post, which it seems like they haven't or they would have presumably already posted it, getting a replacement could involve a bit more than the good old postie.

Depends what the car is of course and how old.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

119 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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giblets_ said:
No not at all - I called up the branch head office to find the correct address to send the letter to (They have 4 different ones) and i was told to email the manager to resolve. I mentioned that if it isn't resolved this way, then I will follow the advice given on this thread.

I'm not one of "those" posters, promise.
Ok dokes. Sorry.

colinjy

98 posts

109 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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am i the only one that finds it worrying getting a spare key for my car sent through the post to the home address where said car for spare key is currently sat

i was missing a second key on my car they said they'd send it out, i told them to get it to the dealership and i'll come and collect as i didn;t want a key for my car turning up at the address the car was located.

they ignored that and still sent it out rolleyes

BertBert

19,079 posts

212 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Do you distrust your postman then?

colinjy said:
am i the only one that finds it worrying getting a spare key for my car sent through the post to the home address where said car for spare key is currently sat

i was missing a second key on my car they said they'd send it out, i told them to get it to the dealership and i'll come and collect as i didn;t want a key for my car turning up at the address the car was located.

they ignored that and still sent it out rolleyes

giblets_

Original Poster:

283 posts

112 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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colinjy said:
am i the only one that finds it worrying getting a spare key for my car sent through the post to the home address where said car for spare key is currently sat

i was missing a second key on my car they said they'd send it out, i told them to get it to the dealership and i'll come and collect as i didn;t want a key for my car turning up at the address the car was located.

they ignored that and still sent it out rolleyes
This is a good point, but as the dealer is up north I cant just make a 4 hour drive up there to collect a key. So quite stumped. Might ask them to deliver it to a friend's address instead; If they fail to deliver it within a week, that is.


Byker28i

60,198 posts

218 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Mexman said:
But, no,... it's the dealers fault, not the lying, mouth breather of a customer who's now possibly cost the dealer two hundred quid for a spare key , when there probably wasn't two hundred quid profit in the deal in the first place.
Sorry I'm late, but I couldn't stop laughing....

giblets_

Original Poster:

283 posts

112 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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So an update.

Got a text this morning apologising for the delay saying the key was posted Monday afternoon.

However, since 6pm I've been getting phone calls from the dealer and texts requesting to talk about the key. I'm feeling quite nervous about it as I don't deal well with verbal confrontation. Any suggestions on a stance to take?

Thermobaric

725 posts

121 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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I'd probably open with 'I got your text to say the second key was posted on Monday but it hasn't arrived. What service did you use to post it?' Even second class would have arrived by now. Seems questionable.