Goodbye, Goodluck and Farewell....................
Discussion
superlightr said:
A change of mind, thats fine with me.
Some things take time to sink in or come to realisation.
Better to correct a mistake then not to at all.
The problem in the police service at the moment...is the Home Office of the day is putting more and more stumbling blocks and hoops to jumpt through, in the way of the police...that very little 'policing' can be actually done.
The amount of forms and paperwork involved in justifying ones actions and deflecting any future complaints etc...is amazing.
If one section of the community have been found to be stop/searched more than another..then lots and lots of justification has to be found for this. Not that it might actually be an error on behalf of the constable at the time. ie: I bet I'll get a complaint out of this one..I'll fill in a stop form. Then on the next one...this bloke seems ok..i'll not waste my time with a form..etc etc.
Drug dealers who's girlfriend's have a baby in the house. Result: Magistrates wont grant a search warrant. Therefore the dealing continues. So now drug dealers make sure that there is at least one gymslip mother always resident.
Housing estates that have numerous tearaways, disqualified drivers, burglars on their way home etc....however, as nobody has died in a RTC on those roads...they aren't 'target roads' and therefore you're not supposed to spend much time on them.
If a crime has been committed. Say a shed break; and the only witness saw a fleeting glance of a male with black hair running away; procudure is; the BiB MUST take a statement from the witness. Regardless of the fact that it will contain no evidential interest. It must be taken.
Two schoolboys have a fight in school grounds. One has a fat lip afterwards. When they get home, one parent rings police. When BiB turn up; mother and child have talked about it and decide it's not worth it, as kids will more than likely be friends again tomorrow. Result=
You've reported a crime. A crime report is what will be taken. No choice Madam! So, a pocket book entry by BiB and signed by mother and child detailing incident and wish for no further police action. Then a visit to the 'offender' who is then interviewed in the pocket book and signs his guilt to say that he did it...and the matter will be filed 'Detected crime. Inexpedient to prosecute'. If the 'offender' doesn't admit it...He will be arrested and interviewed at the station. Where he will later be released 'insufficient evidence' on the basis that the complainant doesn't wish to pursue charge. There are hundreds of more ridiculous examples of how the Government of the day are tying the hands of the police tighter and tighter.
Beat officer are fleeing their work and moving into specialist department by the truckloads...usually CID or Armed Sections. Officers from specialist departments are also feeling the squeeze and are moving into 'intelligence departments' and 'planning/strategic' roles..where contact with the public is slight or non-existant.
The result is the front line bobby, in most forces, has less than 3 years service...often less than 2 (ie: in their probation). Experience and Knowledge..just isn't out there on the streets and the sensible BiB..realise that it's getting time to jump ship.
Those that win: the criminal element and the anti-social yobs. The losers; the law abiding public.
mybrainhurts said:
Been on a course for the last week...and sitting in a classroom has really cheesed me off....
One of those naughty boy speed awareness courses.....?
As usual; the normal PH hang up with speed detection..
Actually, a course on drug sympton recognition and the conducting of 'Field Impairment Tests'.
The new legislation makes it an offence to refuse to comply with such a test and renders you liable to arrest. (Like refusing a roadside breath test).
It's the pupil measuring, walking the line, finger to nose etc. All done in a set order and quite precise...A national test, which will be used in evidence (in addition to doctor's opinion later at the nick and the results of the blood test)..to prove how 'IMPAIRED' the driver was at the scene.
After all; it's not an offence to drive in the UK with drugs in your body. It's only when the drugs IMPAIR your driving and render you UNFIT to drive.
So that's what I was doing.
Streetcop,
Glad you saw the light Gary and decided to continue doing the job that you joined the force to do and have been extensively trained to do. Policework !
I hope things go well, and despite the fact you will not be spending as much time with your family and friends; at least they, and you, will be able to be proud of the job you do.
Camera vans and the whole principal of catching speeders in this manner is so wrong and unjust; I can't imagine anyone with any credibility or integrity wanting to be part of this charade in any manner or form.
Nutskie
Glad you saw the light Gary and decided to continue doing the job that you joined the force to do and have been extensively trained to do. Policework !
I hope things go well, and despite the fact you will not be spending as much time with your family and friends; at least they, and you, will be able to be proud of the job you do.
Camera vans and the whole principal of catching speeders in this manner is so wrong and unjust; I can't imagine anyone with any credibility or integrity wanting to be part of this charade in any manner or form.
Nutskie
DennisTheMenace said:
Ted forgive me ... but somebody give me a f**king good reason to why i shouldnt delete SC from PH ? I think he is a plant who is either working for plod infiltrating websites or a bullshitter of the most extreme , he spends far to much time on here to carry out normal duties , like silverback mike or tonyrec gone etc who i have full respect for , but sorry streetlamp i have none for you .
5pm tomorrow is the deadline
>> Edited by DennisTheMenace on Thursday 14th April 01:11
Deadline for what? Someone to give you a good reason.
Hey mate. Don't go worrying about people giving you reasons and whether you are doing the right thing or not.
I'll make the decision for you and then you either won't feel bad...or nobody can complain about you...
I'll leave of my own account and not return.
Please delete/ban my username-IP address to remove the temptation to revisit in the future.
No hard feeling on my part. I can understand your concern.
Gareth.
One minute rubbing our noses in it and revelling in his new-found position, the next deciding to return to the fold.
First page of the thread I dubbed him Streetmole. Dennis, please do it. Plod or not, he seems to be a wind-up merchant and a t
t. Reason enough before he actually asked you to.
First page of the thread I dubbed him Streetmole. Dennis, please do it. Plod or not, he seems to be a wind-up merchant and a t
t. Reason enough before he actually asked you to. Streetcop said:
Raify said:
something
You still here?
I like to pop in every now and then....Nathan..
Oh no! He's looked at my profile and revealed my real name! What on earth shall I do? 
streetcop said:
I'll leave of my own account and not return.
Go on then. Please, don't let us get in your way
Oh FFS can we stop with the witch hunt. Yes the man can be a bit of a 2@, but I fail to see that is necessarily a reason to ban him, if he winds you up ignore him, I do, it's not that hard. Try and show greater tolerance and maturity or you just end up justifying his wind up tactics and thus perprtuating his stupid and pointless games.
IMHO of course.
IMHO of course.
Can I throw some sanity into this petty argument
Street made a poor choice - IMO
He worded it badly but now he wants to be back
This should be a democracy and he should have a right to exist and post here?
If you dont like what he says then ignore it but dont gang up like some linch mob in hoods
Now you treat SC like Rodney King!
SC think a bit - the rest of you live and let live
Street made a poor choice - IMO
He worded it badly but now he wants to be back
This should be a democracy and he should have a right to exist and post here?
If you dont like what he says then ignore it but dont gang up like some linch mob in hoods
Now you treat SC like Rodney King!
SC think a bit - the rest of you live and let live
Streetcop said:
Those that win: the criminal element and the anti-social yobs. The losers; the law abiding public.
Tony Bliar " Tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime"
He hasnt got a clue what some people have to put up with from scrotes etc in the real world.
My vote will not be red this time. Dont trust any politician, but Bliar MUST GO.
P.S. Glad to see you have come to your senses Gary.
I can totally understand where you are coming from, but please...... NOT THE SCAM PRATNERSHIPS.
P.P.S. Aint Speed plod and law addictive!!
wind . up . merchant
And we all fell for it, shame on us.
I agree, either SC doesn't return, or he gets a ban, either way he's lost the respect of almost everyone on this forum. I'm not exactly the most active poster here, but I've been reading the forums for a long time.
What better way to do it by claiming he was going to work in a scamera van on a PH forum. What did he expect?
Well done SC, us=hook, line and sinker.
Now go away.
And we all fell for it, shame on us.
I agree, either SC doesn't return, or he gets a ban, either way he's lost the respect of almost everyone on this forum. I'm not exactly the most active poster here, but I've been reading the forums for a long time.
What better way to do it by claiming he was going to work in a scamera van on a PH forum. What did he expect?
Well done SC, us=hook, line and sinker.
Now go away.
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