£714 - How much??

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Vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Red Devil said:
You shouldn't need to ask. I suggest you look up the SRA Code of Conduct 2011 Chapter 1: Client Care.

Failure to provide a client with the information they need to make informed decisions about the services they need, how these will be delivered and how much they will cost is a fundamental breach. If she doesn't come up with a reduction/refund pdq then make a formal complaint. If that doesn't produce a result then - http://www.legalombudsman.org.uk/helping-the-publi... - I doubt she will want it to get that far.
That was where I was heading (and mentioned the ombudsman in an earlier post)

From what has been shared, it sounds very odd.

My guess is it's a financially struggling lone solicitor trying it on, or a small practice trying it on, or a small practice that has made a cockup in billing in the holiday season.

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Vaud said:
That was where I was heading (and mentioned the ombudsman in an earlier post)

From what has been shared, it sounds very odd.

My guess is it's a financially struggling lone solicitor trying it on, or a small practice trying it on, or a small practice that has made a cockup in billing in the holiday season.
My money's on the OP not giving us the full story and that the solicitor was probably engaged as part of a settlement of a will or similar. The proving of his identity will be a minor part of a much bigger piece of work that they did.

Where's this email OP?

Vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Gavia said:
My money's on the OP not giving us the full story and that the solicitor was probably engaged as part of a settlement of a will or similar. The proving of his identity will be a minor part of a much bigger piece of work that they did.

Where's this email OP?
That is a possibility. The breakdown of fees will help.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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If he didn't query the cost at any point there is almost an argument to say he had it coming. To me that is just stupid.
That aside the charges are patently ridiculous so it's difficult to believe they can be enforced.

Vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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cmaguire said:
If he didn't query the cost at any point there is almost an argument to say he had it coming.
Not under the conduct guidelines for solicitors as I understand it. They need to volunteer at the point of engagement. No blank cheques.

Note: I am not a lawyer. Just an armchair PHer.

Edited by Vaud on Friday 11th August 22:14

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Vaud said:
cmaguire said:
If he didn't query the cost at any point there is almost an argument to say he had it coming.
Not under the conduct guidelines for solicitors as I understand it. They need to volunteer at the point of engagement. No blank cheques.
Why the hell wouldn't you ask up front though?


Vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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cmaguire said:
Why the hell wouldn't you ask up front though?
I understand. Many would, but you also don't expect them to behave so badly... "verification of ID? that will be £1,000,000 and your first born child..."

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Vaud said:
I understand. Many would, but you also don't expect them to behave so badly... "verification of ID? that will be £1,000,000 and your first born child..."
Assumption is the mother of all........

I just assume most people are wkers until they prove otherwise. Far too often that assumption turns out to be true.

The number of people these days that appear to be looking after their own interests to the exclusion of all others is a dismay to me, but there it is. And so I trust nobody until they give me cause to do so.

xyyman

1,075 posts

226 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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As has been mentioned there is more to this than meets the eye. A simple verification check, whilst a possibility, would not normally be posted off by the solicitor, that would be done by the client (OP in this case).

ID verification alone could not trigger the financial institution to send a cheque to the solicitor, it would need to be made out to the solicitor to enable them to bank it in their client funds account and the client would have to be party to that instruction. To then remove their fee before remitting it to their client all sounds unlikely, unless part of other, additional, client instructions.

My take would be that this bill of £714 including vat, as suggested elsewhere, is in final settlement of another, possibly related, transaction such as property sale, executor duties or suchlike.

Maybe we'll get the full picture, maybe not, but that fee was surely not just for ID verification.

threespires

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4,297 posts

212 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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As I have mentioned before -----------

The B/S owe me some money & needed me to ID myself.
I don't have a solicitor so chose these as they are local. I was with her for about 15 mins.
She then wrote to the B/S to confirm my id. She has now received the B/S cheque and will pay me out less her £714 [inc VAT] fee.

Nothing more to the story, that's the complete story.

NDA

21,615 posts

226 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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threespires said:
As I have mentioned before -----------

The B/S owe me some money & needed me to ID myself.
I don't have a solicitor so chose these as they are local. I was with her for about 15 mins.
She then wrote to the B/S to confirm my id. She has now received the B/S cheque and will pay me out less her £714 [inc VAT] fee.

Nothing more to the story, that's the complete story.
It sounds like you have been soundly swindled by the solicitor.... £700 for a simple ID check is way too much.

bitchstewie

51,367 posts

211 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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How do building society's randomly end up owing people money where a valid passport and proof of address isn't sufficient? confused

I wouldn't go near a solicitor without asking "What's this going to cost me?"

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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threespires said:
As I have mentioned before -----------

The B/S owe me some money & needed me to ID myself.
I don't have a solicitor so chose these as they are local. I was with her for about 15 mins.
She then wrote to the B/S to confirm my id. She has now received the B/S cheque and will pay me out less her £714 [inc VAT] fee.

Nothing more to the story, that's the complete story.
Why have the BSoc sent the money via the solicitor? They wouldn't do this unless specifically instructed to do so. What money is owed to you and why? Is it services rendered by you, or simply from an account? Is the account yours or someone else's?

duckwhistle

276 posts

152 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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This ID stuff is becoming nonsensical, A friend had to prove his ID to his Bank from which he had retired as branch manager a few days previously. I had recently to prove my ID to my Solicitor, a close friend since we were both 5 years old some decades ago. Meanwhile the money launderers continue with business as usual.

threespires

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4,297 posts

212 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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... said:
A great effort but a mere 3/10 for this one from me.
I much preferred your tale about the supermarket car park camera incident, that I gave a solid 7.5/10.
☺☺☺

AndyTR

517 posts

125 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Certified copy of a document, such as a passport, £5. ID1 for the land registry £25!

AstonZagato

12,713 posts

211 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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threespires said:
... said:
A great effort but a mere 3/10 for this one from me.
I much preferred your tale about the supermarket car park camera incident, that I gave a solid 7.5/10.
???
Ah yes. I'd forgotten your last wind up post

KevinCamaroSS

11,641 posts

281 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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My wife and I had to do the same, went to local solicitor, they copied and certified our passports to send off the copies to wherever it was. Cost us £15 as a donation to their sponsored charity.

bloomen

6,918 posts

160 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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My last solicitor visit for this cost £5.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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bloomen said:
My last solicitor visit for this cost £5.
Blimey!

Your solicitor charges you £5 for every post you submit on PH!

I don't even tell my solicitor that I am doing it!