'Intelligent' speed cameras.....

'Intelligent' speed cameras.....

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catso

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14,788 posts

268 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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New type of Scamera?

www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/londonnews/articles/17767402?version=1

Speed cameras can 'talk' to track you down

By David Williams Motoring Editor, Evening Standard
7 April 2005

A new "intelligent" speed trap is set to catch thousands of drivers in London.

Groups of cameras will track cars over a wide area - such as a housing estate - instead of "flashing" them at just one spot.

Designers say it will be impossible for drivers to outwit them by slamming on their brakes as the cameras record each car's number plate and "talk" to each other via radio-wave technology.

Computers then calculate how fast the vehicle was travelling between each point. If a driver is found to have been speeding they will be fined ?60.

Road safety campaigners today hailed the new system that will rigidly enforce speed limits in 20mph zones.

But motoring groups said it would be powerless against the rising number who drive illegally by refusing to register their cars. The system is being pioneered by Transport for London in Camden from next month.

In a year-long experiment two cameras will be placed at either end of Mansfield Road, which has a 20mph zone. Fines will not be issued until the scheme has Home Office approval.

If successful it will be used across London. "The aim is to see how and if the technology works - it is not to gauge the effect on motorists yet," said TfL.

"It is one of a range of ideas we are looking at to tackle speed in sensitive areas such as residential roads.

"At the moment the only option to slow people down is to use hard engineering techniques such as humps, which many people do not like. This is one possible option and we want to see how it works."

Paul Smith, of the Safe Speed campaign, said: "Authority's obsession with speed cameras is not improving road safety and it has to stop."

However, safety organisation Road-Peace said it welcomed the trial.

DeltaFox

3,839 posts

233 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Weak link in a multi million pound stupid idea? Relies on the plate. Take it off and its defeated.
Track that.

catso

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268 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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I presume it's just a variation of Specs/ANPR.

I suppose that, ultimately, ANPR will find 'scamming' as it's main use, once all the crims learn how to bypass it (and once the profitability is fully realised).

flooritforever

861 posts

244 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Damn. And there I was hoping that these cameras would be 'intelligent' enough to realise that they are fing useless and shut themselves down.

*sigh* when will it end????

>> Edited by flooritforever on Thursday 7th April 19:05

catso

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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Anyway 'Intelligent Speed Camera', isn't that an Oxymoron? a bit like 'Government Intelligence'

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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catso said:
Groups of cameras will track cars over a wide area - such as a housing estate - instead of "flashing" them at just one spot.
What a hoot! One of the worst desciptions of SPECs-type technology I've ever seen. Let's say the cameras are installed around the perimeter road of the estate (often fairly wide and usualy 30mph ... unless you call Milton Keynes a 'housing estate'). You pass the first camera, take the next turning, hoof it around the inner estate at high speed, then return to the perimeter road and tootle past the second camera. Speed measured by elapsed time <=30mph. Actual speed 70mph+. Dangerous? Yes! Do the cameras care? A most emphatic NO!

Of course this is an extreme case for the purposes of illustration only. Of course, there's little wonder about the poor reporting in the media these days, the reporters and sub-editors are all products of our wonderful edukayshun sisterm.

Streaky

MR2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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I bet they still burn though

Could someone refresh my memory on 20mph limits and wether they are enforcable? I have read something about this on here in the past.

lunarscope

2,895 posts

243 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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MR2Mike said:
I bet they still burn though

Could someone refresh my memory on 20mph limits and wether they are enforcable? I have read something about this on here in the past.


IIRC, 20mph limits have to be 'self-enforcing' with so-called traffic-calming measures to prevent speeds in excess of the limit (when driving in a reasonable manner) and cannot be enforced with a machine.