Private parking signs

[pavarotti1980]

singlecoil said:

And on a more sensible note? Or has my question put a stick in the spokes of your argument?

If it was me i would use telescopic parking posts

[Red Devil]

TooMany2cvs said:

What else can people do to protect against the entitled YPLAC brigade? They can't tow, they can't clamp, barriers are rarely the right answer.

Contracting with a PPC that can get its signage right, be fully compliant with PoFA 2012, not falsify evidence, nor tell lies in court would be a start. They do exist but are very much in the minority. To use an analogy you should use an incorrupt Sheriff/US Marshal with a badge rather than a bunch of dust covered cowboys whose only authority is their loaded guns.

PurpleMoonlight said:

S11Steve said:

Regardless of driver, it was parked in an allocated bay for my customer.

The right to park in a space via an alternative means, eg a Lease is an interesting one, in that whether or not it trumps the permit requirement.

It may come down to what the Lease actually says, Mine for example states I have the right to park in the spaces marked in red on a site plan attached to the Lease. So I would say my Lease trumps the parking permit enforced by the PPC.

Yes it will. Careful perusal of the whole document rather than just one clause is required.
You may find this of interest - http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/re...
It contains links to 3 judgements. Well worth a look.

It gets even more interesting if the land on which you are parking is not an allocated bay but you have registered title.
See the link to Davey v UKPC.

[S11Steve]

PurpleMoonlight said:

pavarotti1980 said:

DPA breaches would occur if the PPC decided to go to the DVLA for keeper details for vehicles which you have photographed and sent to them. As they dont have a legally binding contract with the driver they do not meet the rules of KADOE and therefore do not have the necessary "rights"for the details. At this point a technical DPA has occured and leaves the PCC, joinly liable with the MA, and maybe you for their actions in the breach. Effectively you are instructing them to commit DPA breaches simply by contracting them.

As pointed out you have picked well with VCS

Ah okay.

I haven't contracted anyone.

I assume I will be taking the picture of the parking thief and emailing to the PPC though.

That's an interesting proposition though, but one that I'm unfamiliar with.

If you tom the image and sent it to VCS, who were subsequently found to be in breach of the DPA, could you be considered as a complicit party in that breach, for being the source of the image?

Representing a corporate entity, DPA is something that that doesn't come into play for me, but now that a number of PPC are having to pay out, I'm sure they will be looking to mitigate their losses, or apportion blame.

As above though, from one PHer to another, please be careful with VCS.

[Dixy]

A new option

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-wiltshire-...

[Countdown]

Dixy said:

A new option

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-wiltshire-...

Hope the biker posts on here so we can refer him to pepipoo. After all, how was he to know it was illegal? Was the signage legally compliant in all respects? Couldn't MOD use barrier access to stop people trespassing?

[anonymous-user]

Countdown said:

Dixy said:

A new option

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-wiltshire-...

Hope the biker posts on here so we can refer him to pepipoo. After all, how was he to know it was illegal? Was the signage legally compliant in all respects? Couldn't MOD use barrier access to stop people trespassing?

Trespassing on MOD land is automatically Criminal Tresspass, so unless he wants further problems if I was him I would probably leave it...