Parking on broken yellow lines?
Discussion
Ben Chod said:
So does anyone actually know if I can get off it on a technicality?
Whether it was 5 mins or 5 days, who the hell wants to pay? If you're one of those knobs who has nothing better to add than some sarcastic remark, just click back because I wont bite, and you're just clogging up the thread with useless b
ks.
Accept the consequences of your actions.Whether it was 5 mins or 5 days, who the hell wants to pay? If you're one of those knobs who has nothing better to add than some sarcastic remark, just click back because I wont bite, and you're just clogging up the thread with useless b
ks.You live there, you know the parking restrictions, you took the gamble. you lost.
swerni said:
Ben Chod said:
So does anyone actually know if I can get off it on a technicality?
Whether it was 5 mins or 5 days, who the hell wants to pay? If you're one of those knobs who has nothing better to add than some sarcastic remark, just click back because I wont bite, and you're just clogging up the thread with useless bks.
What a bellend Whether it was 5 mins or 5 days, who the hell wants to pay? If you're one of those knobs who has nothing better to add than some sarcastic remark, just click back because I wont bite, and you're just clogging up the thread with useless b
ks.I spent weeks dealing with a FoTL wibblehead on a very similar matter earlier this year. The lines were broken, but it was still clear and apparent that DYLs were in place, and all of the signage was correct.
As he was driver from one of our largest customers, I had to go through the motions on it, even though our customer had already said that they would pay it just to get rid of him, but he was relentless, and was threatening legal action against everyone.
He was adamant that under TSRGD 2003 Chapter 5, 20.3 “The markings consist of either a single or a double continuous yellow line laid at approximately 250mm from the edge of the carriageway.”
There have been a number of updates to the TSRGD since 2003, and in the latest version from 2016 it is no longer stated that the lines must be continuous. Part 4 of Schedule 7 if anyone is really that interested - http://tsrgd.co.uk/pdf/tsrgd/tsrgd2016.pdf
The last I heard is that he was applying for a judicial review to force the local authority to allow a PATAS/TPT appeal.
All to avoid paying a £35 ticket.
As he was driver from one of our largest customers, I had to go through the motions on it, even though our customer had already said that they would pay it just to get rid of him, but he was relentless, and was threatening legal action against everyone.
He was adamant that under TSRGD 2003 Chapter 5, 20.3 “The markings consist of either a single or a double continuous yellow line laid at approximately 250mm from the edge of the carriageway.”
There have been a number of updates to the TSRGD since 2003, and in the latest version from 2016 it is no longer stated that the lines must be continuous. Part 4 of Schedule 7 if anyone is really that interested - http://tsrgd.co.uk/pdf/tsrgd/tsrgd2016.pdf
The last I heard is that he was applying for a judicial review to force the local authority to allow a PATAS/TPT appeal.
All to avoid paying a £35 ticket.
Ben Chod said:
So does anyone actually know if I can get off it on a technicality?
Whether it was 5 mins or 5 days, who the hell wants to pay? If you're one of those knobs who has nothing better to add than some sarcastic remark, just click back because I wont bite, and you're just clogging up the thread with useless bks.
Was the date and time correct?Whether it was 5 mins or 5 days, who the hell wants to pay? If you're one of those knobs who has nothing better to add than some sarcastic remark, just click back because I wont bite, and you're just clogging up the thread with useless b
ks.SantaBarbara said:
Ben Chod said:
So does anyone actually know if I can get off it on a technicality?
Whether it was 5 mins or 5 days, who the hell wants to pay? If you're one of those knobs who has nothing better to add than some sarcastic remark, just click back because I wont bite, and you're just clogging up the thread with useless bks.
Was the date and time correct?Whether it was 5 mins or 5 days, who the hell wants to pay? If you're one of those knobs who has nothing better to add than some sarcastic remark, just click back because I wont bite, and you're just clogging up the thread with useless b
ks.
Was the missing patch longer than your car? If it was, I assume your car was parked entirely on the missing spot and not over any lines at all?
If the answer to both questions is yes, then perhaps you'll stand a chance of getting off based on someone's generosity (it worked for me in Brighton of all places when I had failed to fill in my permit properly!), but it would be generosity rather than a technicality.
If the answer to either question is no, then I think you've got naff all chance.
Can you imagine if every time a few inches of paint was lifted for some roadworks, the entire stretch of double yellows was rendered invalid?
If the answer to both questions is yes, then perhaps you'll stand a chance of getting off based on someone's generosity (it worked for me in Brighton of all places when I had failed to fill in my permit properly!), but it would be generosity rather than a technicality.
If the answer to either question is no, then I think you've got naff all chance.
Can you imagine if every time a few inches of paint was lifted for some roadworks, the entire stretch of double yellows was rendered invalid?
Blue Oval84 said:
Was the missing patch longer than your car? If it was, I assume your car was parked entirely on the missing spot and not over any lines at all?
If the answer to both questions is yes, then perhaps you'll stand a chance of getting off based on someone's generosity (it worked for me in Brighton of all places when I had failed to fill in my permit properly!), but it would be generosity rather than a technicality.
If the answer to either question is no, then I think you've got naff all chance.
Can you imagine if every time a few inches of paint was lifted for some roadworks, the entire stretch of double yellows was rendered invalid?
Maybe but only if the OP wants to go to a traffic tribunal and local authorities rarely overturn tickets even when they are losing!If the answer to both questions is yes, then perhaps you'll stand a chance of getting off based on someone's generosity (it worked for me in Brighton of all places when I had failed to fill in my permit properly!), but it would be generosity rather than a technicality.
If the answer to either question is no, then I think you've got naff all chance.
Can you imagine if every time a few inches of paint was lifted for some roadworks, the entire stretch of double yellows was rendered invalid?
Is it worth it! OP clearly new lines existed and chanced his luck due to worn nature of them
Ben Chod said:
I have ticket for parking. I was parked on a broken yellow line, the line has been patched due to roadworks and is therefore broken.
I was under the illusion that this line is now unenforceable? Could someone please clarify?
To clarify: Since an Appeal Court Case in 2011 the test of whether the lines are unenforceable is whether they're "substantially compliant", not whether they're perfect.I was under the illusion that this line is now unenforceable? Could someone please clarify?
In practice that means that if they're a bit worn, or if they have a small gap in them, they're still perfectly enforceable. To be unenforceable they have to be in such a poor state that a reasonable driver might not realise that there's a parking restriction there at all, eg because they're worn to the point where you can barely see them, or because the gap is many yards long..
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